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i think jardine would take the win simply for the fact that Jardine stood up with liddell and beat. something that tito couldnt ever do. jardines got good take down defense and decent jiu-jitsu to keep him off the ground so he could beat tito's face in.
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I think Tito would get this. The reason Jardine beat Chuck was because of his kicks, well against a grappler like Tito throwing those kicks makes your vulnerable for a takedown. Jardine really hasn't shown what he can do on the ground, but I think Tito would just be able to GnP from inside Jardine's guard if not a more dominate position. Chuck is tailor made to beat wrestlers, he is a great counter puncher and has amazing takedown defense, I don't see Jardine with the same skill set.
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i think jardine would take the win simply for the fact that Jardine stood up with liddell and beat. something that tito couldnt ever do. jardines got good take down defense and decent jiu-jitsu to keep him off the ground so he could beat tito's face in.

please tell me when jardine has showed good take down d, you have to have more then good take down d to stop tito. Tito has been on the ground with alot better bjj guys, jj guys.

Tito would beat Jardine like he did forrest in the first round but this would actually be all 3 rounds, but i think tito would finish Jardine in the second.

Styles make fights an Tito is bad for Jardine
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well keith said hes got good take down defense and good jiu-jitsu so i could take his word for it .
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No frickin way Tito takes this. Tito gets pounded just like Chuck
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please tell me when jardine has showed good take down d, you have to have more then good take down d to stop tito. Tito has been on the ground with alot better bjj guys, jj guys.

Tito would beat Jardine like he did forrest in the first round but this would actually be all 3 rounds, but i think tito would finish Jardine in the second.

Styles make fights an Tito is bad for Jardine
I'm not a fan of Tito, but I completely agree.
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well keith said hes got good take down defense and good jiu-jitsu so i could take his word for it .

Unless he has Chuck take down d and amazing bjj he gets his ass handed to him.
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Agree.

People tend to underestimate Tito because of his mouth but fact is he is a good fighter.

It takes a Good striker with great tdd to beat him or someone with much much better wrestling to beat him, and Keith has neither.

Its no shame in losing to Tito, even though he runs his mouth he is a top fighter.

This is just a bad match up for Keith, and the type of match up Tito likes.
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Im going with tito

Tito would take him down easily and pound him out imo
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