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[Rufio]

I guess it's arguable they WERE in their primes last fight, but it wasn't like that fight was conclusive ownage, so who takes it?

[killerinstinct]

Vitor took that fight on short notice and won the first round of the fight and than he just stopped fighting.Its like he didn't even try in the 2nd or 3rd rounds.I'd say Chuck by KO.

[dagreat1]

If Vitor showed up to fight and was in his prime, Vitor by complete ownage. He could've been the best LHW in the history of MMA, it's really a shame he never lived up to his potential. Some people fall short but he fell short by leaps and bounds.

[Punk Ass]

Originally Posted by dagreat1

If Vitor showed up to fight and was in his prime, Vitor by complete ownage. He could've been the best LHW in the history of MMA, it's really a shame he never lived up to his potential. Some people fall short but he fell short by leaps and bounds.

Nonsense!! Vitor is in his prime now. How many fighters do you know lose their skill at 29 years old?? He should be peaking right now. If your saying that Vitor was in his prime at 19 years old then your crazy.

The only reason he's not looking good now is because he has compitition. He's not fighting cans like they used to throw him up against, including a very green Wandi.

Name 1 good fighter besides Couture (who lost from a cut) and Heath Herring (whos not really that good anywayz) that Vitor has beaten?? Seems to me he loses when he steps up and people need to stop making so many excuses.

[Rufio]

Vitor hasn't been in his prime since that deal with his sister. It's more of an issue with motivation than with skill. I also think he gave at least as good as he got against Tito. As for Wandi back then, he went to a decision against Tito two years later. Vitor owned him.

[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by Rufio

Vitor hasn't been in his prime since that deal with his sister. It's more of an issue with motivation than with skill. I also think he gave at least as good as he got against Tito. As for Wandi back then, he went to a decision against Tito two years later. Vitor owned him.

Exactly, he has always had huge issues that effected his motivation and confidence.

[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by harlemhustla145

Nonsense!! Vitor is in his prime now. How many fighters do you know lose their skill at 29 years old?? He should be peaking right now. If your saying that Vitor was in his prime at 19 years old then your crazy.

The only reason he's not looking good now is because he has compitition. He's not fighting cans like they used to throw him up against, including a very green Wandi.

Name 1 good fighter besides Couture (who lost from a cut) and Heath Herring (whos not really that good anywayz) that Vitor has beaten?? Seems to me he loses when he steps up and people need to stop making so many excuses.

With a roller coaster of a life and not being emotionally stable, no confidence and lack of motivation that tends to happen.

Also, as far as the censensus that being 29-32 (around there) is supposedly an MMA fighters peak, that my friend is nonsense. We have only seen this be the case because MMA has only been around for 13 years.

The new breed of MMA fighters are going to be animals at ages 22-25. Training for them will begin at ages 6-10 and they will train in striking, wrestling adn grappling to have a well rounded game by the age of 22-25 as the quickness and reaction time when you are 22-25 compared to 29-32 are light years apart.

How else could you explain being a better fighter when you are 29-33 than you are when you are 22-25? It is because the sport is too new and the fighters are only becoming their best at 29-33 because that is when they finally have perfected their games so earlier training will result in that complete fighter at an earlier age which is such a huge advantage because of the speed, quickness, recovery time, reaction time, etc.

[liddell316]

Chuck would get a TKO win in the second or third, Vitor doesn't show much heart if he can't win the fight early.

[The Iceman]

^^^ Agreed completely. Chuck takes this. If Vitor doesn't win 1st Round then he start's to lose motivation and starts gassing. Chuck by KO at the end of Round 2.

[CHUCKtheCHAMP]

Originally Posted by dagreat1

With a roller coaster of a life and not being emotionally stable, no confidence and lack of motivation that tends to happen.

Also, as far as the censensus that being 29-32 (around there) is supposedly an MMA fighters peak, that my friend is nonsense. We have only seen this be the case because MMA has only been around for 13 years.

The new breed of MMA fighters are going to be animals at ages 22-25. Training for them will begin at ages 6-10 and they will train in striking, wrestling adn grappling to have a well rounded game by the age of 22-25 as the quickness and reaction time when you are 22-25 compared to 29-32 are light years apart.

How else could you explain being a better fighter when you are 29-33 than you are when you are 22-25? It is because the sport is too new and the fighters are only becoming their best at 29-33 because that is when they finally have perfected their games so earlier training will result in that complete fighter at an earlier age which is such a huge advantage because of the speed, quickness, recovery time, reaction time, etc.

a fighters peak age is 28-34, its a fact of maturing. at the young ages of 22-25 fighters are still (no matter how young they started training) getting to know there bodys and abilities, look at a fighter like joe riggs, young started training at a very young age has a fuck load of ring experiance but is still maturing as a fighter cuz he is young, nick diaz also, look at GSP hes 25 i think now, he wont hit his real peak till a few years, we will keep seeing a better gsp for the next few years to come.

ive even heard bas rutten speaking of feeling his body was at its best around 30 years old, i think he knows wat hes talking about