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View Poll Results: Mirko Cro Cop VS James Toney | |
Mirko Cro Cop
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James Toney
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08-18-2010, 11:46 PM
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I know that cc isnt in prime form, but look what he did to those bums in japan that that clearly had little knowledge of kickboxing and were not very well versed strikers, i know that James is far more dangerous than them, his boxing is great, but cc can really use his skills to the fullest against guys who dont know how to check kicks to the legs, body and especially the head. in the ufc he has had to worry about facing guys with great striking of their own (jds, kongo, barry gg has power) that are very well versed and have knowledge of kickboxing, he also has to worry about being taken down so he cant use as much kicks and cant fight like he would like. cc hasnt forgot how to kick, but against top competition he cant use everything. he would kick james so many times to the legs and body that he could finish that way and even send a couple up top. Im shocked that so many people picked toney. Toney is a great boxer, far better than anyone cc has faced and thats saying a lot for cc coming from k1, but without knowledge of kickboxing, he would get killed now, and a prime k1 cc vs. a prime toney, cc would deliver a more brutal head kick ko than he ever has. picture a guy wanting to stand with him, with doesnt know shit about kicks ( im not including the people who assume in this fight that toney knows how to defend against it, that is foolish, if he does as he says, not really worrying about the other aspects of fighting, cc would kill him.)
idc who put the top boxers against the top kickboxers and the boxers would get ktfo FAST. I do agree with a lot of boxers saying that the striking level in mma is a joke (for the most part, except for standouts like silva, shogun, machida, jds, aldo, rampage, cc, etc.) but as a always say not only is boxing not fighting, it isnt the highest level of striking. In the interviews following mercers short fight with remy he said he didnt want anything to do with kickboxing and was shocked how quickly a top boxer like himself would get overwhelmed. btw mercer is a boxer who is learning the other aspects of mma and if you listen to his interviews is really educated on what mma is and i wish him the best of luck, in boxing you cant find a tougher guy than mercer having wars with holyfield, lewis, holmes, etc.
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08-27-2010, 04:32 PM
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#12 (permalink)
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Status: Blobfish Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Northern Ontario Posts: 4,199
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Crocop.
Low kick, circle away
Low kick, circle away
Low kick, circle away
Low kick, circle away
Low kick, circle away
Low kick, circle away
Low kick, circle away
Left high kick.
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08-27-2010, 04:34 PM
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#13 (permalink)
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Status: The I.Q. Poster Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Greater Toronto Area. Posts: 11,782
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Originally Posted by Leucoethiops Crocop.
Low kick, circle away
Low kick, circle away
Low kick, circle away
Low kick, circle away
Low kick, circle away
Low kick, circle away
Low kick, circle away
Left high kick. | This.
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08-31-2010, 02:29 PM
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#14 (permalink)
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Status: Champion Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,412
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Originally Posted by rbenson98 If CC doesn't take toney down and own his ass there
Then it would begin and end with a LHK | CC doesn't seem to throw LHKs anymore.
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08-31-2010, 04:10 PM
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#15 (permalink)
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Status: Beast Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: UK Posts: 553
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Originally Posted by DarkMage CC doesn't seem to throw LHKs anymore. | I know! there must be something wrong with his legs man, he hasn't seemed right since the Gonzaga fight where he landed on it awkwardly.
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08-31-2010, 04:16 PM
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#16 (permalink)
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Status: Contender Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 737
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Originally Posted by Leucoethiops Crocop.
Low kick, circle away
Low kick, circle away
Low kick, circle away
Low kick, circle away
Low kick, circle away
Low kick, circle away
Low kick, circle away
Left high kick. | I think it would take only 2 of those then the high kick. If his legs aren't used to getting a beating it wouldn't take much for him to start guarding the low kick. How funny is it that I keep laughing at the potential idea of seeing Toney getting a kick to the head?
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09-05-2010, 12:55 PM
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#17 (permalink)
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Cro Cop by leg kicks.
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11-10-2010, 12:05 PM
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#18 (permalink)
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Status: k1 king of info Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: no one knows Posts: 512
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Originally Posted by TBEAR I pick James (i dont like James) but IMO he kos CC. I would pull for CC though
CC got outstruck by JDS and Barry....so I see James out boxing cc | Thats becuase cro cop no longer is in his prime, thus he has no true heart to fight, he isnt willing anymore. I heard he even thought of committing suicide which proves he isnt at all mentally well. Cro cop has two tools to work with, he can follow up with a punch than a left high kick.
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11-10-2010, 12:10 PM
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#19 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by rampage9712 I know that cc isnt in prime form, but look what he did to those bums in japan that that clearly had little knowledge of kickboxing and were not very well versed strikers, i know that James is far more dangerous than them, his boxing is great, but cc can really use his skills to the fullest against guys who dont know how to check kicks to the legs, body and especially the head. in the ufc he has had to worry about facing guys with great striking of their own (jds, kongo, barry gg has power) that are very well versed and have knowledge of kickboxing, he also has to worry about being taken down so he cant use as much kicks and cant fight like he would like. cc hasnt forgot how to kick, but against top competition he cant use everything. he would kick james so many times to the legs and body that he could finish that way and even send a couple up top. Im shocked that so many people picked toney. Toney is a great boxer, far better than anyone cc has faced and thats saying a lot for cc coming from k1, but without knowledge of kickboxing, he would get killed now, and a prime k1 cc vs. a prime toney, cc would deliver a more brutal head kick ko than he ever has. picture a guy wanting to stand with him, with doesnt know shit about kicks ( im not including the people who assume in this fight that toney knows how to defend against it, that is foolish, if he does as he says, not really worrying about the other aspects of fighting, cc would kill him.)
idc who put the top boxers against the top kickboxers and the boxers would get ktfo FAST. I do agree with a lot of boxers saying that the striking level in mma is a joke (for the most part, except for standouts like silva, shogun, machida, jds, aldo, rampage, cc, etc.) but as a always say not only is boxing not fighting, it isnt the highest level of striking. In the interviews following mercers short fight with remy he said he didnt want anything to do with kickboxing and was shocked how quickly a top boxer like himself would get overwhelmed. btw mercer is a boxer who is learning the other aspects of mma and if you listen to his interviews is really educated on what mma is and i wish him the best of luck, in boxing you cant find a tougher guy than mercer having wars with holyfield, lewis, holmes, etc. | Why not have a boxer, go to mma and than try to use his footwork and boxing style and see how sloppy they would become as well due to the fact that you have to worry about everything thus there is no pure boxing which is what makes boxing look professional and precise becuase they dont worry about anything else. Boxers just box with one another thus they can position themselves to box with great form simply becuase thats all they are doing. Fedor had better hands than Toney, Mark Hunt also. Toney isnt Klitchko or Tyson lol. But im sure in a boxing match the strategic advantage would go to Toney because he actually has experience boxing, Fedor and Hunt would get ktfo in a boxing ring.
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