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dmc_tim 08-06-2011 01:57 PM

Jones vs lesnar
 
who wins at hw

Masscore 08-06-2011 02:45 PM

Brock and its not even close. He takes Jones down and mauls him.

The_Icon 08-06-2011 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Masscore (Post 845251)
Brock and its not even close. He takes Jones down and mauls him.

I have to agree. Jones would have to put on a lot of weight to contend with Brocks size and strength. If Jones keeps it standing he wins the fight but I think Brock would take him down immediately and the rest of the fight would be Brock holding him down and hammer fisting.

MickeyKnox 08-06-2011 03:16 PM

Jones by superman elbow KO off the cage. :D

the_dark_angel_4ever 08-06-2011 04:41 PM

I've said it before, I'll say it again. I see Jones only losing to a big strong wrestler that can take him down and control him. If Jones is held on his back his dynamic striking, speed, and reach are all neutralized

Kimbo> Rampage 08-07-2011 10:31 PM

Jones will one day go to HW. If he pulls and Overeem and Adds a ton of Muscle you could like his chances against anyone. He will still have a huge reach advantage, and top notch wrestling.

Masscore 08-08-2011 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rampage9712 (Post 845803)
Jones will one day go to HW. If he pulls and Overeem and Adds a ton of Muscle you could like his chances against anyone. He will still have a huge reach advantage, and top notch wrestling.

At HW his reach advantage is not that big of a deal. Lesnar's reach is only 3 inches shorter then Jones. Plus he is a bigger, stronger and better wrestler then Jones. Lesnar would win this fight by TKO in the first or second every time at this point.

Jones needs to stay at LHW IMO. The monsters at HW would chew him up and spit him out. Cain, JDS, Carwin, Lesnar, Bigfoot, Barnett and even Mir would all put a beating on Jones.

Kimbo> Rampage 08-08-2011 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Masscore (Post 845837)
At HW his reach advantage is not that big of a deal. Lesnar's reach is only 3 inches shorter then Jones. Plus he is a bigger, stronger and better wrestler then Jones. Lesnar would win this fight by TKO in the first or second every time at this point.

Jones needs to stay at LHW IMO. The monsters at HW would chew him up and spit him out. Cain, JDS, Carwin, Lesnar, Bigfoot, Barnett and even Mir would all put a beating on Jones.

While I agree with you, at this point in time it is a horrible match-up. Jones is a master of using leverage and executing flawless technical greco throws and takedowns, but the strength disadvantage would be a huge huge difference and be a very tough fight for him. This was assuming he pulled an overeem as i mentioned.

How is 3 inches not a good reach advantage, it is a good advantage and would be foolish to think otherwise. If you watch some good boxing fights you will quickly see. Its not a huge reach advantage but Jones reach is being used against him. He has such a huge reach that if its not a 9 inch reach advantage people assume that it doesnt mean that much. A 9 inch reach advantage isnt a huge reach advantage its absolutely insane. Jones has a longer reach than struve.

Bigfoot would be very difficult as well, JDS and Cain would clearly be difficult. Barnett is hard to say. But I have no doubt that Jones is capable of taking Mir down.

Jones was a wrestling phenom in NY. He never went to college for some reason, but easily won 2 junior college titles the only 2 years he was there. If you see how effortlessly he throws around guys, experienced and better credentialed wrestlers you will see that he is something special.

Masscore 08-08-2011 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by rampage9712 (Post 845849)
While I agree with you, at this point in time it is a horrible match-up. Jones is a master of using leverage and executing flawless technical greco throws and takedowns, but the strength disadvantage would be a huge huge difference and be a very tough fight for him. This was assuming he pulled an overeem as i mentioned.

How is 3 inches not a good reach advantage, it is a good advantage and would be foolish to think otherwise. If you watch some good boxing fights you will quickly see. Its not a huge reach advantage but Jones reach is being used against him. He has such a huge reach that if its not a 9 inch reach advantage people assume that it doesnt mean that much. A 9 inch reach advantage isnt a huge reach advantage its absolutely insane. Jones has a longer reach than struve.

Bigfoot would be very difficult as well, JDS and Cain would clearly be difficult. Barnett is hard to say. But I have no doubt that Jones is capable of taking Mir down.

Jones was a wrestling phenom in NY. He never went to college for some reason, but easily won 2 junior college titles the only 2 years he was there. If you see how effortlessly he throws around guys, experienced and better credentialed wrestlers you will see that he is something special.


I think he went to junior college because of his grades and was set to go to Iowa State but then his gf got pregnant so he decided to go make money in MMA.

Also what I meant by the reach advantage is that it will not be the same at HW that it is at LHW. He is use to almost having a 10 inch reach over most guys. With Lesnar that advantage is not as great and then at the same time you are dealing with a guy who is bigger, stronger and better then Jones' best aspect.

In a few years if Jones puts on weight the right way then maybe he could give guys like Cain and JDS a run. But I think he should stay at LHW where his body give him such an advantage over everyone down there.

TheDoucheyWun 08-08-2011 08:59 PM

anyone know what Jones cuts to make 205? To me he looks as if being Cains size would be no problem for him, I bet he walks around well over 220.


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