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Old 09-23-2011, 05:50 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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All of those guys known for having top notch sub defense.
Are you serious? Tito yes. The other 3, lol, not so much.
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Old 09-23-2011, 05:53 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Are you serious? Tito yes. The other 3, lol, not so much.
Randy, Hendo, and Overeem not having good sub defense...

When exactly did you start watching mma?
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Randy, Hendo, and Overeem not having good sub defense...

When exactly did you start watching mma?
You didn't say good sub defense did you? You said top notch. Two COMPLETELY different quotes with vastly different meanings.
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Old 09-23-2011, 06:00 PM   #14 (permalink)
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You didn't say good sub defense did you? You said top notch. Two COMPLETELY different quotes with vastly different meanings.
It is top notch, for mma, and certainly compared to chael's...
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You didn't say good sub defense did you? You said top notch. Two COMPLETELY different quotes with vastly different meanings.
I would say Randy's sub defense is close if not top notch. The other two on the list not so much though
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When have we seen it EVER? When was the last triangle he even attempted?
Good point, but it seems anyone whom studies either geometry or BJJ may have a good chance to beat Chael(& whom is decent at it).
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