View Poll Results: Tito Ortiz vs Ken Shamrock in his Prime
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Old 01-09-2007, 08:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Tito Ortiz vs a "Prime" Ken Shamrock

There was an argumen over this so I wanted more opinions on this.

Tito Ortiz vs Ken Shamrock when he was in his prime. Please do your research before posting. Who wins?
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Old 01-09-2007, 08:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I actually think Ken believe it or not I am just thinking Pancrase Ken with the amazing leg locks and heel hooks that guy was great and woudl kill Tito Old grumpy Ken Sucks though.
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Old 01-09-2007, 09:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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prime ken was a beast

faster then Tito, stronger then Tito, and better submission skills then Tito, and good wrestling with a strong, fast, shoot.



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prime ken was a beast

faster then Tito, stronger then Tito, and better submission skills then Tito, and good wrestling with a strong, fast, shoot.



shamrock by kneebar
Couldnt of said it better.
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I agree with the last two guys Shamrock would kill Tito
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Shamrock in his prime was also a weight class above Tito, and had insane takedown defense.
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Shamrock in his prime was also a weight class above Tito, and had insane takedown defense.
regardless, Prime Shamrock still beats Prime Tito, and without weight cutting, there would still be only like a 5-10 lb difference, and with Tito's style, any speed lost if he bulked up or didn't cut, wouldn't matter a whole lot
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I think the sport has evolved enough that Tito would still be victorious. Ken is still a legend though.
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Ken would break titos leg soo hard it wouldnt even be funny...well kinda funny

ken in his prime was bigger, stronger, faster and better skilled in subbs than prime tito, ken had amazing fast shoots and would break titos leg with the meanest kneebar ever placed on someone...

ken by kneebar or ankle lock round 1
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Seriously, what's with the "sport has evolved" crap? Yeah, the sport has involved in so much as now, a fighter has to be much more rounded. Back when UFC and Pancrase started out, you could do well with one field of expertise. THAT is how it has evolved. A top sub guy today isn't neccessarily better at subs than Ken or Royce, but he may be more skilled in other areas than Ken and Royce were.

Since the real way the sport has evolved is in fighters being less one-dimensional, the "sport has evolved" argument doesn't really work for Tito. He's even MORE one-dimensional than Ken was. Tito has wrestling, ground 'n pound, strength, and cardio. Ken in his prime had subs, a strong sprawl, strength, speed, and good striking power.

I see this fight going like Ken/Severn 1 or Ken/Fujita, except Tito wouldn't last through the punishement that Fujita took.
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