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[neonatural45]

who wins this fight between submission specialist. Lutter might be the only one lister has trouble submtting but id chose lister by unimous dec.

[AJL416AZ]

lister by embarrassingly easy sub

Lutter has exactly one game, and Lister is 10x better at it.

now if Travis could wrestle or strike, i would give him a slight edge, but his primary game is bad wrestling and submissions. something Lister could smoke him in, and plus Lister is cutting from like 215 down to 185. so Dean would definitely outpower him as well

[neonatural45]

lutter cut weight to get to lhw and mw so hes big too
as far as more powerfull id say lister has a small advantage cuz we saw him get outpowered by marquardt i also feel that if lister couldnt submit sasaki then he might not be able to tap lutter

[matto]

ya i would agree, lister is just better then lutter at what he does best and what he would do. i dobut it but it is possible for lutter to beat silva, but if he does there r going to be a lot of mw contenders right of the bat, no disrespect to lutter.

[liddell316]

I'd take Lutter only because Lister has been highly unimpressive in the UFC so far, but I think we'd see a decision either way here.

[Dork8503]

i agree lister is alot better at what he does then lutter, i say 2nd round sub,

[CHUCKtheCHAMP]

Originally Posted by dork8503

i agree lister is alot better at what he does then lutter, i say 2nd round sub,

yup

[supermark21]

What are lutters qualifications at BJJ besides saying he has the belt?
Listers at least won titles

[AJL416AZ]

is lutter a black belt?


and titles are not the only verification of skill.
its not like BJJ black belts are just given out to people that don't earn them like some karate shit
black belts are monitored and evaluated by many people other then just the one instructor before being awarded the black.
its harder to get a black belt in BJJ then it is for like a 4th degree in TKD or any other TMA

[mmafightfan]

Originally Posted by AJL416AZ

is lutter a black belt?


and titles are not the only verification of skill.
its not like BJJ black belts are just given out to people that don't earn them like some karate shit
black belts are monitored and evaluated by many people other then just the one instructor before being awarded the black.
its harder to get a black belt in BJJ then it is for like a 4th degree in TKD or any other TMA

Lutter is a Machado Jiu-Jitsu blackbelt.