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08-01-2012, 07:45 AM
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|  Mir v barnett
Frank Mir vs josh Barnett
Who wins and why?
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08-01-2012, 07:50 AM
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I find this to be a very interesting fight as Barnett is used to having a significant grappling advantage over most of his opponents. He wouldn't have it here. Could frank sub josh or would the "war master's" top control stifle Mirs jits?
I personally think josh probably takes this via ud. With lots of control and smothering. Mirs got better hands so I see josh taking this one to the cage for a lot of clinch work and pressure.
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08-01-2012, 05:16 PM
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Josh has good takedowns, but isnt an elite wrestler like Lesnar was. He would struggle to get Mir down. The standup would be close and could go either way... I dont see either subbing the other...
Id take Mir by UD. Uses his standup and outpoints Josh...
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08-01-2012, 07:40 PM
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I had this conversation with a guy at work today, And the way I explained it if this fight were to go down I don't know who I'd pick I believe that their sub skills would cross each other out I feel Josh has the better TD's and chin but I feel frank has the better strikes.
To me it would be an amazing match and I guess I would favor Barnett.
And with that said Cormier mauls Mir with a beating Lesnar & Carwin could only dream of laying on Frank.
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08-02-2012, 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by rampage9712 Josh has good takedowns, but isnt an elite wrestler like Lesnar was... | ...Am I reading this correctly? You're indicating lesnar is a more technical grappler than Barnett?
Or are you just saying lesnar had better takedowns?
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08-02-2012, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by rivethead ...Am I reading this correctly? You're indicating lesnar is a more technical grappler than Barnett?
Or are you just saying lesnar had better takedowns?
rh | Yes, Lesnar is a better wrestler than Barnett...
Josh clearly the better all around grappler... he may be versed in catch wrestling, but as far as pure wrestling and takedown ability... Lesnar was better...
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08-02-2012, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by rampage9712 Yes, Lesnar is a better wrestler than Barnett...
Josh clearly the better all around grappler... he may be versed in catch wrestling, but as far as pure wrestling and takedown ability... Lesnar was better... | I'll agree to disagree. lesnar had great takedowns due to his size/strength and speed, but Barnett has a better top game and is much more technically sound, and his submission grappling is lightyears beyond brock's.
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08-07-2012, 07:29 PM
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I would take Barnett by tko.
Josh has proven that he has a good chin, I don't think you can say the same for Mir. Josh also is game in the later rounds, where you don't see Frank go 3+ rounds very often. He has the better wrestling too. Grappling wise they are even, but Barnett would be the one getting the takedowns and I don't see him getting subbed from guard so...I see him stopping Mir within 3.
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08-07-2012, 07:45 PM
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I would take Barnett. I think at this point his chin is better and he would tko Mir much like what Dbader was saying.
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08-12-2012, 08:42 AM
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Barnett by UD he might be able to finish Mir but i think he gets the UD.
Mir is Good but Barnett is close to if not on the Elite level of HW's
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