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  • 07-29-2006, 08:23 PM
    prophet665
    Quote Originally Posted by killerinstinct
    The guy with a boxing glove was a hometown hero who had a good boxing back ground and the fat guy(Teila Tuli)had a very accomplished Sumo back ground.
    I was making more of a joke than anything else. I was also just trying to make a light hearted statement on how unpolished the fighters were back then (not to mention the production values of the PPV).

    I think we can all agree that wearing a single boxing glove was not the best decision and that sumo wrestlers should really watch out for high kicks within the first 15 seconds of a fight. Agreed?
  • 07-29-2006, 03:47 PM
    Legend
    Quote Originally Posted by killerinstinct
    The guy with a boxing glove was a hometown hero who had a good boxing back ground and the fat guy(Teila Tuli)had a very accomplished Sumo back ground.

    Ok well i was about to rip through that guys argument but you already did. Sooo fuck it i guess
  • 07-29-2006, 04:50 AM
    killerinstinct
    Quote Originally Posted by prophet665
    The best of their craft, huh. Like the dumbass that came to the ring with one boxing glove on? Or how about the really fat guy that got kicked in the first 10 seconds, knocked his teeth in to the crowd, and crumpled like a house of cards. Yeah...those guys were the pick of the litter! :P
    The guy with a boxing glove was a hometown hero who had a good boxing back ground and the fat guy(Teila Tuli)had a very accomplished Sumo back ground.
  • 07-29-2006, 04:20 AM
    prophet665
    Quote Originally Posted by killerinstinct
    I don't think they works either ,but I've heard people say they were.No serious claims though.The competition may have not been that well rounded b/c it was just starting out there were no fight camps or anything like that the whole purpose was to find out what fighting style works best in a real fight.Royce fought the best fighters of their craft.
    The best of their craft, huh. Like the dumbass that came to the ring with one boxing glove on? Or how about the really fat guy that got kicked in the first 10 seconds, knocked his teeth in to the crowd, and crumpled like a house of cards. Yeah...those guys were the pick of the litter! :P
  • 07-29-2006, 01:51 AM
    killerinstinct
    Quote Originally Posted by prophet665
    Hmm...I think that the first couple of UFC fights weren't fixed so much as the fighters that were fighting were not top caliber (exccept for Royce). Looking most of the contestants in the early UFC, those guys were not very well rounded.

    I didn't see Shamrock/Franklin fight, but the Hughes/Gracie fight was not fixed. Gracie's arm was nearly snapped at the elbow during that match and you can see Hughes straining with all his might to rip that joint in half. Gracie is just one Gumby-like fighter.
    I don't think they works either ,but I've heard people say they were.No serious claims though.The competition may have not been that well rounded b/c it was just starting out there were no fight camps or anything like that the whole purpose was to find out what fighting style works best in a real fight.Royce fought the best fighters of their craft.
  • 07-27-2006, 10:28 PM
    prophet665
    Quote Originally Posted by killerinstinct
    Peopel have said that the 1st couple of UFC's were fixed for Gracie.I don't believe this.Some people think this b/c the Gracies owned the 1st couple of UFCs.I've also heard that the Gracie/Hughes fight and the Shamrock/Franklin fights were rigged ,but I seriously doubt there's any truth to that other than that I haven't heard of any serious claims of fights being rigged.

    Hmm...I think that the first couple of UFC fights weren't fixed so much as the fighters that were fighting were not top caliber (exccept for Royce). Looking most of the contestants in the early UFC, those guys were not very well rounded.

    I didn't see Shamrock/Franklin fight, but the Hughes/Gracie fight was not fixed. Gracie's arm was nearly snapped at the elbow during that match and you can see Hughes straining with all his might to rip that joint in half. Gracie is just one Gumby-like fighter.
  • 07-27-2006, 06:02 PM
    Alvin
    No, because Hall didn't put up any of his usual resistance, the fact that both fighters were managed by the same person who insisted that Frye faces Tank fresh & that Hall admits that it was a worked fight.

    If it looks like a chicken, clucks like a chicken & tastes like a chicken....it's probably a chicken!
  • 07-27-2006, 06:00 PM
    paintstik
    People calling the Gracie/Hughes and Shammy/Franklin fights works are retarded. If they were works than niether Gracie or Shammy would have left looking like they were human punching bags.
  • 07-27-2006, 05:47 PM
    liddell316
    Because he showed less heart you think it was a work?
  • 07-27-2006, 12:32 PM
    Alvin
    Quote Originally Posted by CHUCKtheCHAMP
    WAT UFC FIGHTS WERE FIXED ID LIKE TO KNOW..
    Top of my head the Anthony Macias Vs Dan Severn fight was the most obvious work ever. Even Severn looked at him to say "what the fuck?". he barely touched him & Macias tapped.

    Robert DePersia managed both Don Frye & Mark Hall during Ultimate Ultimate & they got drawn together for the winner to go on to face Tank Abbott. Hall had lost in 2 previous fights with Frye, but put up a decent show refusing to tap. As DePersia had more to gain from Frye's career he didn't want Don to over exert himself so he & Frye told Hall to lie down in their fight which he reluctantly did.

    Of course Frye denies this, but Hall is adamant this is what happened & after watching the fight you'll notice instead of Hall showing the heart that he did in his previous fights he tapped within 30 seconds.
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