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  • 08-02-2006, 05:27 PM
    Kewl144
    Quote Originally Posted by J zingher
    If you make the weigh-ins on the day of the fight, the quality of the fighters performance will suffer greatly. By giving them time to recover they come in hydrated and with some energy.

    If your cutting a lot of weight it is really hard to turn around and give a top performace with same day weigh-ins.
    Actually it would force the fighters to maintain their weight throughout their training instead of dehydrating themselves for a day or 2 to make weight, only to put it back on before the fight.
  • 08-02-2006, 04:07 PM
    J zingher
    If you make the weigh-ins on the day of the fight, the quality of the fighters performance will suffer greatly. By giving them time to recover they come in hydrated and with some energy.

    If your cutting a lot of weight it is really hard to turn around and give a top performace with same day weigh-ins.
  • 08-02-2006, 03:30 PM
    supermark21
    Quote Originally Posted by kickass32
    I too would like to see the weigh in on the day of the fight , but that isn't going to happen.
    I might be a little naive, but does Franklin or anyone else for that matter, actually put on 20-25 pounds over night? I lnow they gain weight back, but is it actually that much??
    yea they really do. as soon as they get that water back they turn into a huge container. after a long cut your body stores everything it can. its not necessarily twenty five pounds of muscle or fat. its mostly water
  • 08-02-2006, 08:05 AM
    kickass32
    I too would like to see the weigh in on the day of the fight , but that isn't going to happen.
    I might be a little naive, but does Franklin or anyone else for that matter, actually put on 20-25 pounds over night? I lnow they gain weight back, but is it actually that much??
  • 08-02-2006, 07:49 AM
    Kewl144
    Quote Originally Posted by thelegendrvb
    Agreed
    why?
  • 08-02-2006, 06:50 AM
    Legend
    Quote Originally Posted by Supe
    I fail to see how competing at a high weight class takes "balls". its smart fighting to compete at the weight class you feel you will do better at. Thats like saying if Babalu doesn't stand and trade with Liddell he's a pussy. A real man throws and fights. Thats crap. These guys fight with styles at the weights that are most beneficial for them. To do otherwise is stupid and has nothing to do with being ballsy. If bisping wants to stay at 205 he has to deal with larger guys taking him down and must improve ground defense. If he drops down to 185 hes gonna have quicker guys striking at him and must get better at trading and his own take downs. Either desicion does not reflect on his manhood, its what is best for him as a fighter.
    Agreed
  • 08-02-2006, 06:33 AM
    Mastiff_owner
    In the ufc right now only two maybe three fighters would be favored in a fight with franklin at 205. Liddel, Babalu and ortiz. Liddell is the only one of those i would put money on. That being said there is noone that can beat franklin at 185. So lets think about this for a minute. Stay at 185 be a champ get crazy endorsement deals or fight at 205 be a top contender and hope for an endorsement. Not only is it a choice where to fight but it is also a business decision. Franklin has made the best BUSINESS decision.

    As for Bisping i hope he stays at 205 because he can still put on some weight and muscle mass. Get some more power behind his punches and fight where he is comfortable and where he has already won a title (cage rage). And where he will compete for a title within the next two years when Chuck retires.
  • 08-02-2006, 02:53 AM
    Kewl144
    Quote Originally Posted by supermark21
    yea but then how do you feel about open weight tourneys in pride? or is it that theyre saying theyre one weight and theyre really another
    It's about keeping it within their weight class. They shouldnt be allowed to fight at 185, for example, if they weigh over the weight limit of the next class when it's fight time. I'm not a big fan of open weight tournaments, and they wont happen in North American anyway because of sanctions. I would just like to see, even though it'll never happen, two guys fighting in the same weight class who fight at the same weight. Again, it's just a pet pev of mine. And I honestly believe Franklin only dropped down to dominate (do you think we'd hear much about him if he continued at 205? As I recalled a 205er handed him his ass a few years back and he dropped down to 185). And I hope Bisping stays at 205.
  • 08-02-2006, 12:23 AM
    supermark21
    Quote Originally Posted by Kewl144
    He walks in at 205 to 210, not 200. He's fights at MW but he weighs in at LHW when he fights. I know almost everyone does it, and I'll admit it's a pet pev of mine. However, it's a bit of a joke when two fighters weigh the same during their fights (or sometimes one weighs more than the other) and they fight in different weight classes (with the heavier fighter sometimes fighting in a lighter weight class).
    yea but then how do you feel about open weight tourneys in pride? or is it that theyre saying theyre one weight and theyre really another
  • 08-02-2006, 12:15 AM
    Kewl144
    Quote Originally Posted by supermark21
    the point is that almost everyone does too. so franklin walking in the cage at 200 is pretty big, but the crow was probably rite there with him if not a little bigger
    He walks in at 205 to 210, not 200. He's fights at MW but he weighs in at LHW when he fights. I know almost everyone does it, and I'll admit it's a pet pev of mine. However, it's a bit of a joke when two fighters weigh the same during their fights (or sometimes one weighs more than the other) and they fight in different weight classes (with the heavier fighter sometimes fighting in a lighter weight class).
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