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  • 10-15-2006, 04:45 AM
    kaisq11
    Hes 32 he looks 50
  • 10-15-2006, 02:21 AM
    Afro
    Quote Originally Posted by Mastiff_owner
    Between Toney, Peter, and Brock I think Sam Peter is the only one that can beat Lyakovich or Klitchko. Vlad's chin is the only thing keeping him from assuming his brother's place as the top HW in the world. Vitali was the only one that had a legit shot at beating Lennox. If the HW's start to shape up like they might I may have to start keeping up with them again. I have really fallen off the train in the last couple of years only occasionally reading what is going on because there wasn't much of a division in boxing to watch other than 135-154 pounds.
    ya the HW division is mad weak but its got a lot of nice up and comers

    but the LHW divisions and down have been real exciting this year
  • 10-15-2006, 02:19 AM
    Mastiff_owner
    Between Toney, Peter, and Brock I think Sam Peter is the only one that can beat Lyakovich or Klitchko. Vlad's chin is the only thing keeping him from assuming his brother's place as the top HW in the world. Vitali was the only one that had a legit shot at beating Lennox. If the HW's start to shape up like they might I may have to start keeping up with them again. I have really fallen off the train in the last couple of years only occasionally reading what is going on because there wasn't much of a division in boxing to watch other than 135-154 pounds.
  • 10-15-2006, 02:08 AM
    Afro
    Quote Originally Posted by Mastiff_owner
    Afro- before this turns into a boxing thread I am curios of your opinion of valuev and Klitchko. I know Vlad has serious skills and a glass chin but have not seen Valuev fight so will defer to your expertise. Is he a boxer or is he boxing's answer to Tim Sylvia?
    he aint bad thats for sure, hes definently got skills.. Valuev that is, Klitch is pretty good too.. IMO the best of the Russians is Serguei Lyakhovich hes a little knockdowsn prone too though but hes goin up agains Shannon Briggs whos legit. Overall none of the Russians are great in my eye.. there gonna get outranked by the likes of Sam Peter, James Toney, and Calvin Brock sooner then later.. but there solid to good boxers.
  • 10-15-2006, 01:57 AM
    Mastiff_owner
    Afro- before this turns into a boxing thread I am curios of your opinion of valuev and Klitchko. I know Vlad has serious skills and a glass chin but have not seen Valuev fight so will defer to your expertise. Is he a boxer or is he boxing's answer to Tim Sylvia?
  • 10-15-2006, 01:34 AM
    Afro
    hell I box on the streets all the time, in fact im boxin a dude 2 weeks from now am I a thug?
  • 10-15-2006, 01:32 AM
    error2k5
    aleast kimbo is trying to clean up his act, murray is still a thug
  • 10-15-2006, 01:29 AM
    Afro
    im not tryna take EVERYTHING away from Tim Sylvia because he is the champ but then again.. John Ruiz was HW champ in boxing and hes a bum, I compare Tim Sylvia to John Ruiz.. when Tim Sylvia fights a decent HW hes gonna meet his match, AA shoulda put him out in that 3rd fight if he wasnt injured and AA is solid at best if you ask me. Let Tim Sylvia go up against a good HW, not a great one.. but a good one and we'll see if hes more then just a giant with strength.. technically hes god-awful and thats why I call him a bum cuz I dont see any technical fighting in this guy, I see a giant with a jab that swings with power.. sorry if im too much of a boxing fan, but I love to see some finese, some accuracy, some skill when you throw hands.. none of this ima swing so hard that if I hit ya ur gonna eat dirt crap.. we'll see with Tim though I just think that anyone with a decent stand-up game would beat this clown and his iffy chin.
  • 10-15-2006, 12:57 AM
    killerinstinct
    Quote Originally Posted by Mastiff_owner
    lol at your take on murray, i had a feeling it was because he ALLEDGEDLY ko'd tito.

    I am waiting to see IF and WHEN he fights before i take a stand on his talent level. He is obviously athletically gifted. Probably more so than tank.
    there's no alledgedly about it.
  • 10-15-2006, 12:57 AM
    Mastiff_owner
    Quote Originally Posted by josht
    why are Mike Nickels and Tim Sylvia bums, but Kimbo is not and in your opinion he is a perfectly legit MMA contender. Is it because Kimbo is black and Syliva and Nickles are white?
    I think you may not know what the hell you are talking about. Mike Nickels is a can see afro's post above for further explanation. Tim Sylvia has the belt I won't call him a bum because he has beaten everyone put in front of him defying odds and logic.

    I think it is pretty cheap, low and dirty of you to try and ellicit a racial argument. I could just have easily said no one likes Kiimbo because he's black. I would never do that because I have respect for all people.

    if that is the type of argument you are going to use to substantiate unfounded posts you don't need to post here.

    I have had debates with Afro on several occasions and race has never and should never have any part in an MMA debate.

    Please post elsewhere
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