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  • 01-27-2010, 07:27 PM
    Donny77
    I appreciate the work u put into this, but I'm not too sure i agree. Get your stats right, Rich has 5 losses and while he may have lost to A Silva twice and Vitor, the Hendo fight was very close. The UFC is a business and they have to market some fighters based on that. And with Clay, he's never been overhyped in my opinion. He's been marketed accuaratley based on how he fights, explosive and energetic. He's never been touted as a title contender but as a dude that will go 15 mins at a insane pace.
    I do agree with Cung and Kimbo ,and The Count to a lesser extent. Simpily because he always seems to improve from his losses and the Kang performance was great!
  • 01-27-2010, 01:57 PM
    TBEAR
    Quote Originally Posted by Masscore View Post
    100% agree. I see overrated as someone with a lot of hype but never lives up to it. Winning a title means you lived up to your hype. Bisping makes a lot of sense on this list I personally think Josh Barnett is the most overrated fighter to ever fight. I know he was "champion" but does it really count if the title is literally stripped away before you can defend it once. I mean the guys best win is a split decision victory over Big Nog, in a fight a lot of people think (including myself) Big Nog won. Then Big Nog came back and beat him in the rematch anyway.
    agreed
  • 01-27-2010, 09:49 AM
    krillmaster
    - At first I'd say put Fedor on this list, but he's more of an overrated fighter than an overrated star because he's raked in the bucks and finished fights.

    - I can see why it's arguable for Guida to be on this list considering he never main-evented or even headlined a show, but I don't know why everybody's problem with Franklin being on this list. The article is about "Top 5 Most Overrated MMA Stars", not "Top 5 Most Overrated MMA Fighters". I'm sure the list would be much different if it was about overrated fighters.
  • 01-26-2010, 05:08 AM
    Trojan Fight Club
    He is mentally worn out from the fight game. It has something to do with age, but Mirko has also acheived a lot in his life on top of fighting which has all taken a toll on him mentally. He was hyped when he first got to the UFC, and imo he stll has it in him, but he is not overrated. He is Mirko Cro Cop, one of the greatest strikers in history. Because his mental toughness is on the decline and he is done living the spartan lifestyle, that does not make him overrated. it makes me cry inside to nowadays but I would not call him overrated. Fedor said himself that Mirko was the toughest fight of his career. He's a legend and he will retire as such. not as overrated.
  • 01-26-2010, 04:30 AM
    bigsmooth696969
    Quote Originally Posted by Trojan Fight Club View Post
    saying Cro Cop is overrated is stupid. He is one of the greatest fighters in history. Just because he has gotten older and been on a decline doesn't make him overrated. That's like saying Chuck is overrated simply because he was good then but now he's on a decline. You can't be an all time great, get old and become overrated. Frye isn't overrated, he's old. There's a difference.
    Obviously you did not see the NOW I included. When Mirko came to the UFC, it was like the second coming of Jesus was upon us. His UFC tenure is an EPIC FAILURE! He was expected to come in and compete for the title and it never happend. So, therefore, he is overrated. He seems gun shy and timid to throw any strike in the cage. He is 35. Anderson Silva is 34 so dont tell me its because of age. Simpy put, IMO he is overrated.
  • 01-25-2010, 09:08 PM
    One-Way
    Poor article. With the exeption of Kimbo.

    It is all subjective. Each is a good fighter. It is the fans own fault if they put them up on a super high pedistal. But that is the nature of sports. One's favorite team is the best and that is all there is too it. Bisping has skills, so does Franklin, Guida is always fun to watch, and Le is OK too.

    IMHO anyone that thinks Kimbo is the best ever is obviously under educated about the sport. I do think that Kimbo is tough and has a fighters spirit but he has a lot of work to put in to be the best ever.
  • 01-25-2010, 08:17 PM
    Trojan Fight Club
    saying Cro Cop is overrated is stupid. He is one of the greatest fighters in history. Just because he has gotten older and been on a decline doesn't make him overrated. That's like saying Chuck is overrated simply because he was good then but now he's on a decline. You can't be an all time great, get old and become overrated. Frye isn't overrated, he's old. There's a difference.
  • 01-25-2010, 06:10 PM
    bigsmooth696969
    Quote Originally Posted by bottlerocks View Post
    Amen. Cro cop just makes me cry on the inside nowadays. As much as I love Brandon Vera it just seems like he's lost something intangible and I'd have to agree on that point. He gets paid waaaay too much for his performance level.

    I'm going to get flogged for this one but IMO Cain Velasquez is overrated. He's an awesome fighter and probably the best wrestler in the H/W division but I'm sick of him being talked about like he's the next incarnation of God. He's got nothing behind his hands and his chin is pretty suspect.
    I think Velasquez is a very good up and coming fighter with a less than stellar chin. He handled Kongo like a rag doll but got dropped a few times in the process.
  • 01-25-2010, 08:23 AM
    bottlerocks
    Quote Originally Posted by bigsmooth696969 View Post
    LOL Franklin overrated? I just wanted LMFAO when I read that. He has never lost to a poor fighter. He was the MW champ for over a year. He doesnt pick his opponents, the UFC does. If anything, he is underrated. I think the most overrated fighters NOW are Kendall Grove, Brandon Vera, Akiyama, and Mirco Cropcop.
    Amen. Cro cop just makes me cry on the inside nowadays. As much as I love Brandon Vera it just seems like he's lost something intangible and I'd have to agree on that point. He gets paid waaaay too much for his performance level.

    I'm going to get flogged for this one but IMO Cain Velasquez is overrated. He's an awesome fighter and probably the best wrestler in the H/W division but I'm sick of him being talked about like he's the next incarnation of God. He's got nothing behind his hands and his chin is pretty suspect.
  • 01-24-2010, 10:59 PM
    Trojan Fight Club
    Quote Originally Posted by bigsmooth696969 View Post
    LOL Franklin overrated? I just wanted LMFAO when I read that. He has never lost to a poor fighter. He was the MW champ for over a year. He doesnt pick his opponents, the UFC does. If anything, he is underrated. I think the most overrated fighters NOW are Kendall Grove, Brandon Vera, Akiyama, and Mirco Cropcop.
    what the fuck did you just say...
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