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  • 12-16-2010, 09:48 PM
    end it with a left
    Quote Originally Posted by Masscore View Post
    While I do not think Shogun will get KO'd by Evans (like I said before I picked him to win) here is the logic.

    Knee Surgery = Loss of Movement = Getting hit more = KO. So while his chin will not be affect by his knee injury his movement and stamia could. Which means he could take more damage and get KO'd.

    I agree with you though, if Evans is going to win its going to be on points. I do not see him TKOing or subbing Shogun.
    I totally agree with you but the thing that makes this fight so hard to predict is that no one would have thought Forrest would have been able to submit him either or even make through the fight conscious and look what happened. If Shogun wasn't coming off surgery I wouldn't think Rashad would make it out of the second round
  • 12-16-2010, 09:25 PM
    Masscore
    Quote Originally Posted by IceCold48 View Post
    how does a long lay off and a knee surgery make a person with a granite chin get knocked out by an inferior striker? and why does everyone think rashad has great conditioning. he doesnt. he looked bad in the third round in both fo his last two fights and got KTFO in the one before that.
    While I do not think Shogun will get KO'd by Evans (like I said before I picked him to win) here is the logic.

    Knee Surgery = Loss of Movement = Getting hit more = KO. So while his chin will not be affect by his knee injury his movement and stamia could. Which means he could take more damage and get KO'd.

    I agree with you though, if Evans is going to win its going to be on points. I do not see him TKOing or subbing Shogun.
  • 12-16-2010, 09:23 PM
    dgil
    Quote Originally Posted by TheKidInside View Post
    whoever is in the Tri-State area MUST come! I am holding everyone responsible for showing up there to cheer on Shogun!
    Let's get all the MMAnews guys that are going to meet up, get smashed at a local bar, then cheer on Shogun.
  • 12-16-2010, 07:45 PM
    IceCold48
    Quote Originally Posted by Daellusx View Post
    Knee surgery + long lay off = KO lose for Shogun .
    No I dont think Rashad is the better striker or the better fighter. However I think that the knee surgery and long lay off are going to dramatically affect Shogun. I'm thinking he'll come out looking like he did against Coleman. Which if he does, Rashad is going to wear him down with his wrestling and get the KO in the later rounds when Rua will dead tired.

    Of course when it comes to picking fights I'm probably batting around .300 so I'm more than likely wrong . But it's nice to go against the grain once in a while.
    how does a long lay off and a knee surgery make a person with a granite chin get knocked out by an inferior striker? and why does everyone think rashad has great conditioning. he doesnt. he looked bad in the third round in both fo his last two fights and got KTFO in the one before that.
  • 12-16-2010, 06:55 PM
    v3xi
    Its sad that this fight comes down to a random unknown factor rather then the 2 fighters abilities.

    I hope the best Shogun shows up and we see a great fight.
  • 12-16-2010, 06:51 PM
    Jaydo06
    Well Shogun is on the right path right now, he went through his recovery and rehab with no problems according to Dana before going back to training. Can't wait to see Shogun come back in top form. (Hopefully).
  • 12-16-2010, 06:35 PM
    Daellusx
    Knee surgery + long lay off = KO lose for Shogun .
    No I dont think Rashad is the better striker or the better fighter. However I think that the knee surgery and long lay off are going to dramatically affect Shogun. I'm thinking he'll come out looking like he did against Coleman. Which if he does, Rashad is going to wear him down with his wrestling and get the KO in the later rounds when Rua will dead tired.

    Of course when it comes to picking fights I'm probably batting around .300 so I'm more than likely wrong . But it's nice to go against the grain once in a while.
  • 12-16-2010, 06:27 PM
    Masscore
    Coming off knee surgery and a long layoff to face one of the best fighters in the LHW division I think is going to be too much for Shogun. And the last time he came off a long layoff after knee surgery was against Coleman and he looked like shit. I am not saying Shogun will look like what again but he will need to bring his A game for a guy with the all around skills Evan has.

    Shogun is not only going to have to recover from surgery but spend a lot of time working on his takedown defense. I know his BJJ is amazing, but Evans is no slouch in the submission defense department. And even if he is active from the bottom the point is unless he can submit Evans he loses this fight from the bottom. Shogun's best chance to keep this fight standing and hurt Evans and TKO him. Fighting off his back for five rounds = Evans new LHW champion.

    After everything I said right now, I am going with Shogun. I think he will find a way to hurt Evans and do what Thiago and Rampage could not and that is finish him off in the 4th round. But I would not be surprised to see Evans pull off the win. Either way this is going to be a great fight.
  • 12-16-2010, 05:58 PM
    iced
    Quote Originally Posted by TBEAR View Post
    WOW there is some Shogun love in this thread

    IMO Rashad will win by UD...His TD's are too strong
    i would have to agree with ya tbear. i will def be rooting for shogun, but i think that rashad has a better chance here. if it comes down to stamina and the later rounds, you have to give the conditioning to rashad. which shogun is gonna show up? the one who looked gassed and terrible vs coleman, or the one who ko'd machida. and after being out for so long, i tend to worry. we all saw how he did after that surgery vs forrest.

    shogun is gonna have to connect to rashads chin which doesnt seem to be great, and try to keep the fight standing where he has the clear advantage. otherwise, i fear it being a long night for the champ.
  • 12-16-2010, 05:49 PM
    xdevilhawk138x
    Splenda Rashad Evans is going to do the stanky leg once agin
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