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  • 01-30-2013, 06:09 AM
    Sakara=Excitement
    Dude Hioki is the bomb dot com. The most centered fighter I've heard talk yet.
  • 01-30-2013, 04:23 AM
    Cat--Smasher
    UFC ON FOX 6 EXCLUSIVE: Hatsu Hioki Responds to Fan Criticism of Clay Guida | MMAWeekly.com

    I hear a lot of people criticizing Guida’s strategy to lie on top; however, it was ultimately my lack of skills to get back on (to my) feet, stop these takedowns and submit an opponent who was staying tight while being on top to put myself on the losing end. I say this again: Guida won the fight fair and square. He was better than me at that night.

    I have respected him before and I respect him more now.

    I spent a lot of time to develop takedown defense, and I think my takedown defense skill got better than before, but just fell short on Guida. That’s the truth, but I can say that my takedown defense is a lot better than before because we were into prepping for him takedowns. If it weren’t for this fight prep, my takedown defense would have been unchanged and undeveloped, so I would like to (say) thank you (to) him for being a great wrestler.

    All that said, I would like to thank all the support from fans who have watched the fight and Guida-san for the competitive match.

    Thank you very much,
    Hatsu Hioki
  • 01-29-2013, 07:57 PM
    TBEAR
    How does that question go...O YEAH

    Don't leave it in the hands of the judges.


    But right now I would not leave a pile of shit in the judges hands.






    Really we need to get this judge shit fixed. they seem to be getting worse.
  • 01-29-2013, 07:36 PM
    Mac
    Hioki got beat by the hair, plain and simple.
  • 01-29-2013, 07:49 AM
    Dr. MMA
    Quote Originally Posted by carbondioxide830 View Post
    he did inflict more damage, but clay landed a td every round. When the rounds r that close, usually the guy who sneaks in a td takes it, right or wrong. Clay won imo but not 30-27. If hatsu won i wouldnt dispute it.
    The rounds shouldn't have been considered that close. Hioki outlanded Guida by nearly 2 times the strikes. On the ground, Hioki was the one controlling Guida most of the time and actually locked on submissions. One takedown per round shouldn't negate both the standup and the groundwork.
  • 01-29-2013, 07:39 AM
    carbondioxide830
    he did inflict more damage, but clay landed a td every round. When the rounds r that close, usually the guy who sneaks in a td takes it, right or wrong. Clay won imo but not 30-27. If hatsu won i wouldnt dispute it.
  • 01-29-2013, 03:19 AM
    lwbrewer
    After being in a debate over Clay in a nother post with Dr. MMA now see why to what he wrote. I have the fight taped and is one of Clays I havent watched yet. I do agree with being on top doesn't always mean control. Some fighters can do more damage from the bottom, and that should mean control too.
  • 01-29-2013, 12:14 AM
    Dr. MMA
    Hioki definitely did more than enough to win the fight. It's too bad that the judges didn't see it that way. Guida looked like he was moving on top, but he was really not doing anything. He was both outstruck and outgrappled, and yet won the fight because he took it to the ground once in each round.

    Why is Gabriel Sabaitis even judging? Does he even judge more than one event a year? Is that sufficient to be able to judge?
  • 01-29-2013, 12:01 AM
    Sniggles
    I love how it says Clay won by Lay and Pray on his wikipedia record.
  • 01-28-2013, 11:01 PM
    Eric T Smith
    I thought that this fight displayed one of the major problems with MMA judging. Hioki clearly did more damage and should have won that fight. I understand "octagon control" and I'm all for it, but the judges need to understand that "octagon control" and being on top aren't necessarily the same thing. Yes Guida was on top, but the entire time on top he was on the defensive. Hioki landed some nice shots from the bottom as well as threw up numerous submission attempts. Guida was focusing so hard on not being subbed, that he inflicted little to no damage from Hioki's guard. Not to mention how sharp Hioki looked on his feet. I'm not exactly sure how to fix this problem, but it needs to be fixed. The judge who gave Guida all three rounds shouldn't ever judge another MMA fight again.
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