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  • 02-02-2013, 09:54 AM
    Rise
    Quote Originally Posted by Pasha K View Post
    LOL I do not care at all if he was on roids or not.
    He kicked Bisping's ass pretty nicely, that is all that matters to me. Yes they can make that fight a NC, give Bisping a title shot and suspend or even fire Belfort. At the end of the day Bisping got the ass kicking he deserved.
    Nah he didn't nearly get the ass kicking he deserved if he did he probably wouldn't have been walking out of the cage on his own.

    That said not condoning Vitor cheating if he did.
  • 02-02-2013, 07:54 AM
    Pasha K
    LOL I do not care at all if he was on roids or not.
    He kicked Bisping's ass pretty nicely, that is all that matters to me. Yes they can make that fight a NC, give Bisping a title shot and suspend or even fire Belfort. At the end of the day Bisping got the ass kicking he deserved.
  • 02-02-2013, 07:37 AM
    AnchorPunch
    FrontRowBrian ‏@FrontRowBrian
    TRT is for sure. Even dating back to UFC 152. Still have to test within normal with exemption. Was Ratner in charge in SP?

    FrontRowBrian ‏@FrontRowBrian
    to best of my knowledge Vitor was never specifically mentioned as using TRT at 152. Some thought Hamill was guy

    FrontRowBrian ‏@FrontRowBrian
    To clarify - I didn't say Vitor flunked a drug test. I said he's been using TRT his past 2 fights and there's a *rumor* he flunked test
  • 02-01-2013, 08:46 PM
    trustkill
    Quote Originally Posted by BonesKnows View Post
    i thought that there was no commission in Brazil and the UFC brought an independent third party to do the tests under the guidlines of NSAC. So by telling the UFC he was on it would be letting the "commission" know so to speak.
    There's a new sheriff in town, in the form of a Brazilian commission. I had no idea it existed until this rumor hit the web:

    Michael Bisping talks rumors of Vitor Belfort failing drug test, Brazil commission says tests aren't back yet - Bloody Elbow
  • 02-01-2013, 08:30 PM
    lwbrewer
    Hopefully this does't get Bisping a title shot. I can hear the UFC hype train now Bla bla bla
  • 02-01-2013, 08:19 PM
    BonesKnows
    Quote Originally Posted by trustkill View Post
    Vitor and his doctor can keep all the secrets that they want, but if the athletic commission asked him in writing if he had taken any type of testosterone supplementation and he lied, then he's dead-to-rights.
    i thought that there was no commission in Brazil and the UFC brought an independent third party to do the tests under the guidlines of NSAC. So by telling the UFC he was on it would be letting the "commission" know so to speak.
  • 02-01-2013, 07:57 PM
    Cat--Smasher
    Belfort drug test rumors: Brazilian AC explains results not even back yet - Mixed Martial Arts News

    FrontRowBrian ‏@FrontRowBrian
    Just land in Vegas. Rumors of a HUGE drug test failure. Not a shock. Working on details. U figure it out.

    FrontRowBrian ‏@FrontRowBrian
    Rumor has nothing to do with UFC 156 and anything currently scheduled.

    @joshuachan72
    so the reem is fine?

    FrontRowBrian ‏@FrontRowBrian
    Of course.

    @pagonis12
    please tell me its not @nickdiaz209 ?

    FrontRowBrian ‏@FrontRowBrian
    Rumor I heard has nothing to do with nick Diaz.

    FrontRowBrian ‏@FrontRowBrian
    Latest on rumor... Vitor Belfort definitely used TRT for the Bisping fight. Whether he was granted approval by UFC, I do not know right now

    FrontRowBrian ‏@FrontRowBrian
    To clarify. Vitor was in TRT. Not a rumor. Fact. Was it approved? I'm trying to find out.

    FrontRowBrian ‏@FrontRowBrian
    So this could just be another run of the mill TRT exemption. Media will have to ask Dana tomorrow.

    FrontRowBrian ‏@FrontRowBrian
    Here's thing. Even with TRT exemption you have to test within normal range even after the fight. Its closely monitored. At least in Vegas

    FrontRowBrian ‏@FrontRowBrian
    TRT is for sure. Even dating back to UFC 152. Still have to test within normal with exemption. Was Ratner in charge in SP?

    Chris Benoit ‏@gibbyage
    Bisping dropped Vitor being on trt in an interview rant. Figured it was true.

    FrontRowBrian ‏@FrontRowBrian
    yes. He did make the accusation an he is correct but it was never public cuz fights outside US

    FrontRowBrian ‏@FrontRowBrian
    So this could just be another run of the mill TRT exemption. Media will have to ask Dana tomorrow.

    •MaddDogg• ‏@MaddDoggMiller
    He was on TRT vs Jones, that's old news.

    FrontRowBrian ‏@FrontRowBrian
    to best of my knowledge Vitor was never specifically mentioned as using TRT at 152. Some thought Hamill was guy

    Chuck Thompson ‏@ctlacosta
    new brazil commission over saw SP remember the problems with the guy who acted Nobre

    FrontRowBrian ‏@FrontRowBrian
    right but does that commission issue TRT exemptions or did Ratner help since commission is so new.

    michael @bisping
    Hope these rumours aren't true.

    michael ‏@bisping
    About a certain someone who I fought recently failing his drug test. I hope it's not true.

    FrontRowBrian ‏@FrontRowBrian
    To clarify - I didn't say Vitor flunked a drug test. I said he's been using TRT his past 2 fights and there's a *rumor* he flunked test

    FrontRowBrian ‏@FrontRowBrian
    a TRT exemption isn't a license to test outside normal range (4:1 T/E). You still have to be under limit even w/ exemption.

    @MMAsNostradamas:
    I thought it was 6:1 with the NSAC. 4:1 with tge CSAC.???

    FrontRowBrian ‏@FrontRowBrian
    You're right. NSAC is 6:1, WADA 4:1. RT
    However, drug tests at UFC on FX 7 were administered by the newly formed Brazilian MMA Athletic Commission, or Comissao Atletica Brasileira de MMA (CABMMA).


    In the early hours of Friday, January 1, rumors surfaced that Vitor Belfort has been caught in a doping test in the UFC Sao Paulo, held last January 19, where he knocked out Englishman Michael Bisping.

    The event was the first to be regulated by the newly created Brazilian MMA Athletic Commission (CABMMA), which has Márcio Tannure in charge of the medical department. Contacted by TATAME, the doctor dispelled the possibility that Vitor Belfort, or any other athlete, had been caught doping at the UFC in Sao Paulo.

    "This is nothing to the rumor, the results have not yet come out," explained Tannure. "The agency that works in partnership with us has not yet finalized the results. The two main event fighters always are tested, plus two more fighters on the preliminary card, and two more fighters of the main card. There are six athletes tested, but none of them ever had the test results confirmed and finalized."

    The doctor predicted that the agency will release the results of drug tests by the 19th of February.
    In a potential further complication, late last week Ratner announced that all fighters who compete in international events will be tested for PEDs, and that 'of the Night' bonuses will not be paid until test results are available.

    As the CABMMA clearly references six tests, and Ratner said all fighters would be tested, there remains the possibility that there was a second set of tests administed at the event. the rumors are related to testing of athletes by the UFC, independent of any AC.
  • 02-01-2013, 07:09 PM
    trustkill
    Quote Originally Posted by BonesKnows View Post
    lorreta wrote on twitter that a fighter doesnt have to tell their opponent that they are on TRT because of the privacy between him and his doctor. I could see him telling the UFC but not the public...i guess we will see come feb. 19th
    Vitor and his doctor can keep all the secrets that they want, but if the athletic commission asked him in writing if he had taken any type of testosterone supplementation and he lied, then he's dead-to-rights.
  • 02-01-2013, 07:06 PM
    trustkill
    Quote Originally Posted by Rise View Post
    I think the UFC and Bisping would love nothing more then for Belfort to get busted for PED use. Because if he does that allows them to find another way to get Bisping a title shot with Silva.
    That's certainly possible, but I think Vitor destroyed (or severely injured) Bisping's marketability with that head kick. It's like Pandora's box, once you open it, you can't close your eyes and pretend you didn't see it. Anderson is real sensitive to which opponents can draw PPV buys (obviously) and I wonder how he (and the UFC) would feel about trying to market the guy (Bisping) who got KTFOd by the guy (Vitor) who got KTFO'd by Anderson. I know thats MMA math, but still.

    In a perfect world, the fight will be ruled a No Contest and Bisping should regain his standing. The fallout and repurcussions from Vitor's (alleged) failed drug test should be an interesting case study in marketing and justice, for lack of a better word.
  • 02-01-2013, 07:00 PM
    BonesKnows
    lorreta wrote on twitter that a fighter doesnt have to tell their opponent that they are on TRT because of the privacy between him and his doctor. I could see him telling the UFC but not the public...i guess we will see come feb. 19th
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