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  • 02-09-2013, 10:02 PM
    Sniggles



    ROIDSSSSSS
  • 02-09-2013, 06:07 PM
    Leucoethiops
    Quote Originally Posted by dbader08 View Post
    Not surprising, I actually had a feeling it might be him for some reason. He looked pretty shredded his last fight, even though he usually looks in pretty damn good shape...
    Buddy and I watched the fights and I said to him "Fuck, Tavares is on a lot of juice, guy is huge compared to when he joined the UFC."

    He's always been shredded, but not so jacked.
  • 02-09-2013, 10:21 AM
    Cat--Smasher
    Tavares disputes results of failed test - Fighters Only
    “I am surprised with the suspicion of doping announced by the UFC!” he says. “In 13 fights have submitted seven times to anti-doping tests and I've never been accused of any illegal substance use…I would never be able to use something that was not allowed.

    “My medical team is working on an investigation of any supplements or medications used in and out of Brazil in recent months that might have given this false positive result on the test.

    “The analysis is being done in specialized laboratories, by researchers at the Federal University of Santa Catarina, and the medical procedures are also being investigated.”

    “I have been a succession of facts that want to shake up my career, such as deferred fights, injuries, etc, and I was prevented fighting last year. But I am confident that my career will not be shaken by this obstacle. Now we give our rebuttal to the UFC and we await results of the analyses so that measures can be taken.”
  • 02-07-2013, 03:49 PM
    hass
    Quote Originally Posted by Happypants View Post
    IMO you can't do this. What is legal today is illegal tomorrow. Everyone is taking something whether it be legal or illegal. Everyone is using power / taking pills / using drugs after surgery.

    I can see you point when you are talking about stuff that is pretty cut and dry like sticking a needle in your arm but it isn't always like that.
    For constants like steroids, HGH, and high test levels you can. That's why I said temporary suspesnsions for OTC stuff - the stuff that is legal for some time then found to be illegal. Steroids are steroids - always illegal/banned. HGH is forever banned, is it not? And if your test levels are raised beyond space fuck, banned for life. And I explained myself for if a doc prescribes someone it for after surgery, car accident, etc. You wait and wait till you are totally healed before you sign to fight, i.e. subject yourself to testing. I realize they need money, but fighters coming back too soon that get caught, well they came back too soon. To eliminate this, the ultimate deterrent must be getting caught. With so many guys testing positive, getting caught obviously isn't that much of a deterrent. So increase the fricking penalties. Risk of being banned for life or losing insurance permanently as someone said will actually deter people from the temptations of these shortcuts. A fuckin 6 month, nine month suspension? Lots of guys don't even fucking fight in those timeframes anyway...
  • 02-07-2013, 01:06 PM
    joeodd2
    As far as testing for marijuana I agree it's stupid, but just like some laws and company policies people in this country have to follow, they are the rules non the less. And it's Diaz's responsibility to know those rules and obey them if he wants to compete. Personally I can't see any real benefits to PED's with the exception of better looking Abs. I mean most guys who get popped have lost their fights. Skills still win fights. But I think it's a question of honor and integrity for the sport and the spirit of Martial Arts it'self, and I have come to the conclusion that only a LIFETIME BAN would really work. If someone uses a steroid they should be banned for life, with no appeals. That's the only way we can better insure a cleaner sport. Of course there will be a bigger market for barely legal supplements that give fighters similar effects, I just don't see how you can regulate that......
  • 02-07-2013, 08:36 AM
    CJRockstar
    We'll continue to have this argument every time somebody gets busted for PEDs. The reality is, unless we are blood testing every fighter anonymously at random from the time they sign their contract, the fighters will dope. Plain and simple. Sure you might have one or two here and there that aren't doping, or they are using some kind of pain killer that is banned, but very few and far between. Threaten them with random (and often) blood testing (including HGH) and they will all lose 15 lbs of muscle and we'll probably see 30% less KO's. Hell make it part of their insurance clause. If you get caught using PEDs you become un-insurable by the UFC fighter insurance, so any medical bills you incur come out of your own pocket. That'll turn some heads.
  • 02-07-2013, 07:05 AM
    dbader08
    I don't really think it has so much do with smart, as with not giving a shit. lol

    But testing for dead pot metabolites is a joke anyways. The effects of Marijuana last 4-6 hours, why fault someone when they obviously weren't under the effect of such things during the fight. It's not a PED. So the only concern should be the safety of the fighter.
  • 02-07-2013, 07:03 AM
    Sniggles
    Quote Originally Posted by Rise View Post
    Diaz got the year because it was a second time offense and instead of working with the commission to get a lighter suspension he tried to fight it. I think most other marijauna suspensions have been 6 months or less for first time offenders.
    And because he wasn't smart enough to not smoke for a month before his fight.
  • 02-07-2013, 06:51 AM
    Rise
    Quote Originally Posted by iced View Post
    I certainly wouldn't complain. I find it bullshit a fighter gets suspended a damn year for smoking a joint, but doping to give them an edge gets 9 month. I really don't get it.
    Diaz got the year because it was a second time offense and instead of working with the commission to get a lighter suspension he tried to fight it. I think most other marijauna suspensions have been 6 months or less for first time offenders.
  • 02-07-2013, 06:24 AM
    iced
    Quote Originally Posted by Rise View Post
    This ^^

    They should be punished more along the lines of how they deal with Olympic level athletes.
    I certainly wouldn't complain. I find it bullshit a fighter gets suspended a damn year for smoking a joint, but doping to give them an edge gets 9 month. I really don't get it.
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