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  • 02-09-2013, 03:11 PM
    W.Silva>C.Norris
    Quote Originally Posted by MIZjitsZOU View Post
    Nice response by Bisping. Put his point across without whining.
    I think he had the whining kicked out of him. He was pretty humble after the Hendo fight as I recall as well..
  • 02-09-2013, 02:52 PM
    MIZjitsZOU
    Nice response by Bisping. Put his point across without whining.
  • 02-09-2013, 09:53 AM
    Cat--Smasher
    Michael Bisping official statement on Belfort's TRT

    Michael Bisping official statement on Belfort's TRT - Mixed Martial Arts News

    As some of you may know, Iíve just got back to Orange County from filming a movie in England. There have been dozens and dozens of interview requests and tweets about the recent news.

    Iím back in England next week for the UFC on FUEL show, and right now all I really want to do is see my family, especially my daughter, who turned just turned 10 (happy birthday, Elle!). So, I wanted to do a short statement here and then move on to my fight with Alan Belcher, April 27th at UFC 159.

    Hereís what Iíve got to say:

    As I said right after the fight, I lost because I made a mistake and Vitor took advantage of it. It sucks. I don't like it, but that was the result. I lost. Bottom line.

    Over the past couple years, and even right before the fight, I have made my views on TRT very, very clear. I donít feel that I need to go into depth about it again right now. All I have to add, about this specific instance, is that it is very disappointing that someone who was caught cheating with testosterone in the past, now gets to use testosterone legally. A well known side effect of steroids is that it reduces testosterone, so I don't understand how it would make sense to then grant someone an exemption to then increase testosterone.

    All that being said, I am not here to make excuses or cry over spilled milk. I fight in the best organization in the world, The UFC, and am very excited to work and earn a title fight, the right way. That process starts by whooping Alan Belcher's ass at UFC 159 on Saturday, April 27th, live on PPV.

    Thanks everyone for their support Ė canít wait to spend some time with British UFC fans in London next week and I will be back, better than ever.
  • 02-09-2013, 08:53 AM
    Kimbo> Rampage


    30:20
  • 02-09-2013, 04:03 AM
    Sniggles
    Quote Originally Posted by Qball1974 View Post
    There's nothing natural about any sport. I have PEDs and TRT in the same boat, if you don't produce either naturally and you NEED or WANT to take them you don't belong in a professional sport. Find another way to make a living IMO.


    I feel bad for Bisping now 3rd loss to a TRT patient.
    Testosterone is produced by the body and you can have deficiencies much like you can with any hormone or nutrient.

    Dianabol, Winstrol, Anadrol or Stanzolol are not naturally occuring.

    Medical treatment from an endocrinologist is several shades of grey different than injecting steroids.

    The problem is not those who get medical treatment, it is those who will abuse it by not registering with an endocrinologist or the commission.

    People like Alistair Overeem.

    The testing system is deficient as I have said for years. Organizations won't foot the bill because:

    A.) They don't really care - it doesn't affect them, it affects the career of the fighter.

    B.) It would take away from the bottomline.

    With the commissions, it's only B.

    Judging is in the same position as better substance testing/rules and new rules which would benefit the sport.

    The money is not in a solution, it is in spreading and infecting the global populous with this burgeoning sport.
  • 02-08-2013, 08:49 PM
    hass
    Quote Originally Posted by Luc1an View Post
    Ugh, fail #2.
    #1 Jackass
  • 02-08-2013, 07:33 PM
    Masscore
    Quote Originally Posted by CtGreat View Post
    I've always seen it as this, as you get older you naturally stop producing testosterone in the same ammounts as when you were younger; especially if you abused steroids in the past. However, as you age in years, you have gained fighting experience throughout those years. That fighting experience is what evens out the playing field with the younger fighters who have fully capable bodies, but minimal fighting experience. TRT IMO gives an unfair advantage for more experienced fighters.
    What about guys who have issues due to years of weight cutting and not steroid abuse? Or many of the other issues that a man may need TRT.

    TRT is a rather common practice outside of the combat sports and sports world in general. There are many men out there who put on business suits or lab coats ever day that use TRT and never step foot into an octagon. That is why AC's have always allowed it.

    I think a lot of you guys think TRT basically gives you a brand new engine to run on. No all TRT does when used correctly is basically replace the old spark plugs.
  • 02-08-2013, 12:41 AM
    dbader08
    I would say someone who has been doing martial arts since the age of 5 deserves where they are at moreso than someone who achieves it with the assistance of synthetic testosterone...Apples and Oranges.

    and yes fighters are matched based off of performance, and the implementation is the same in that fighter A wouldn't be at the point where he's at in his career, and wouldn't do as well at that point without an unfair advantage.
  • 02-07-2013, 10:55 PM
    H0SS
    Quote Originally Posted by Mac View Post
    A 42 year old man does not naturally have the same testosterone levels of a 25 year old man so no, TRT does not bring that person to a natural level. So when Henderson uses TRT, is it bringing him to the natural level of a 42 year old or a 20 year old? Does anybody know because I am curious.

    There is no way that this many pro atheletes have a legit need for this.
    Why is it wrong for a 42 year old man to have the testosterone levels of a 25 year old? Because he has experience too and that is an unfair advantage?

    Do you get upset about certain fighters entering the sport with a long history in judo, boxing, wrestling, whatever? Why not? You think it is fair that fighter A is 25 years old and has been training since the age of 5, and fighter B is 25 years old and has only training since he was 20?

    The reason why that isn't an issue is because fighters are matched up based on their performance.

    If Dan Henderson is found to have low testosterone, and he decides to undergo TRT in order to lead healthier life and be able to continue fighting, I don't see what the problem is.

    If you don't like it...

  • 02-07-2013, 09:03 PM
    Ashy Larry
    I think the problem with trt is it's based off of a range instead of an average. These numbers are all made up for the sake of an example but let's say fighter 1 has test levels of 300ng/dl and fighter 2 has a level of 280ng/dl.

    Now let's say the acceptable range is 300-1300ng/dl. So fighter 1 can't use trt but fighter 2 can. So fighter 2 uses trt and brings his test to the 1300ng/dl max. Is that fair?

    I think using an average value and requiring all trt users to fall within 1 standard deviation of the average at all times would be much more reasonable.

    Now
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