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  • 02-15-2013, 12:38 PM
    1inthechamber
    Dbader, you chael has never outstruck anybody...... ever


    You were wrong, why when proved so you try and say "oh but 320 strikes didn't do nothing" or blah blah blah. You were wrong, except it. Now you sound like Pashak, bitter
  • 02-15-2013, 08:24 AM
    BonesKnows
    Chael has lost 2 fights in almost 4 years (its 4 years on Feb. 21st). Those 2 fights were against the GOAT that is Anderson Silva, and im sure i dont need to remind everyone of the beating he put on the GOAT in their first fight.

    Remember this when saying Chael doesnt belong with certain fighters, he very much belongs.
  • 02-15-2013, 07:26 AM
    Kimbo> Rampage
    Starting to like Sonnen, but he needs to realize his limitations...

    I would have loved to see him fight someone like Shogun, Lil Nog or Rampage... Big name legends. that he can actually beat...

    guys likes Jones and DC are FAR too much for him. I like his attitude of wanting to fight the best, but he cant hang with them imo...

    however there are still some good matchups for him out there at LHW and even MW should he go back down... Id love to see him fight Vitor, Lombard, or Weidman.
  • 02-15-2013, 05:40 AM
    Sakara=Excitement
    Quote Originally Posted by dbader08 View Post
    I don't really consider it being bitter.
    I'm just informing you how you are coming off. You may not mean to sound that way, but you are starting to sound like Pashak when he rails against the UFC. I'm not the only one picking up on that.

    Quote Originally Posted by dbader08 View Post
    Just showing a bit of dislike for someone that I...dislike.
    We all understand and get it.

    Quote Originally Posted by dbader08 View Post
    He's a good fighter, I'll give him that, but he's not on Jones, Cormier's, or Anderson's level.
    I don't think anyone has ever put him on their levels.

    Quote Originally Posted by dbader08 View Post
    He's talked so much shit and failed to back it up.
    He's done a great job of backing it up. Anderson had a Tiger Woods/Michael Jordan like demeanor in that most of his opponents were beaten before getting in to the octagon. Chael brings it in every fight he's in. Regardless of the outcome. And last I checked, losing to Anderson Silva of all people isn't something to hang your head on. He's kinda good.

    Quote Originally Posted by dbader08 View Post
    Choked big time when he had his chance to become champ
    Again, losing to Anderson Silva isn't a bad thing. But as long as their is a winner, there is a loser and the list is endless of the people who "choked big time" just because they lost.

    Quote Originally Posted by dbader08 View Post
    and then just broke mentally and quit in the 2nd fight against Anderson after talking just as much shit that time around.
    I see this and am curious as to how he quit? When he was kneed in the solar plexus? It did the same thing to Bonnar as well. But then again, it's easy to say Chael quit when it wasn't you taking those shots.

    Quote Originally Posted by dbader08 View Post
    Not exactly the type of guy that I'm going to show any respect for.
    I always find it odd that the Diaz fan boys are so adamant about respect.
  • 02-15-2013, 04:03 AM
    dbader08
    Agree to disagree.

    Plus you guys were just nitpicking. The point of me commenting was pointing out that I don't believe Sonnen can hang with Cormier on the feet, and can't take him down.

    Quote Originally Posted by W.Silva>C.Norris View Post
    this is exactly the same failed argument you used after condit put a clinic on diaz. it didnt work then either..
    What? Lol. 1st, These fights aren't even remotely comparable. 2nd, I never said I thought Diaz won his fight with Condit. So it looks like your post is the only thing failing. It definitely wasn't a clinic, though lol. A clinic is more like Wandy-Leben, where there's actually a decisive (and brutal) outcome or finish.
  • 02-15-2013, 03:57 AM
    H0SS
    Quote Originally Posted by dbader08 View Post
    Chael did not have a knockdown. Anderson's hand touched the mat, but this is MMA, not boxing, and fighters know that they can go to the ground without getting a standing 8 count and an automatic 10-8 round. He barely touched the mat to help him regain his balance, whereas Chael got knocked on his ass when he went down. Either way, even if you consider what Chael did a knockdown, it's clear who's was more effective.

    And when you punch someone 320 times and they have hardly any marks, that means soemthing. Anderson got Sonnen to duck his head down with a punch from GUARD. That's the whole reason he was able to set up his triangle, because Chael couldn't handle getting punched from guard. lol. Then there's Anderson, who let Chael hit him a number of times, including the "knockdown", as you call it, where he had his hands down by his side. So you tell me who's strikes are more effective.
    A) It counts as a knockdown.
    B) Chael outstruck Anderson in the first fight.

  • 02-15-2013, 03:25 AM
    W.Silva>C.Norris
    Quote Originally Posted by dbader08 View Post
    Right, except that, uhhh...It likely hurts a hell of alot more to get hit with an Anderson Silva punch, elbow, or kick than a punch from Chael Sonnen...as evidenced by the fact that Anderson barely had a mark on his face after the fight even though he ate 320 strikes (most on the ground), and Chael looked pretty beat up. Then of coarse there's the fact that Anderson had a knockdown...

    You do know that all strikes and significant strikes aren't exactly the same right?? You do know that just because fight metric says Sonnen landed a couple more strike standing than Anderson, that that doesn't mean he was the more effective striker whilst standing, right? Out striking someone is a combination of volume and effectiveness. In no way was Chael the more effective striker with what he landed on the feet, so the fact that he may have landed a couple of more strikes on the feet isn't going to sway my opinion any.
    this is exactly the same failed argument you used after condit put a clinic on diaz. it didnt work then either..
  • 02-15-2013, 02:29 AM
    lwbrewer
    I can't blame Sonnen for getting his shot at LHW thats the UFC's fault for that farse.As much BS he has slung he has had some very truefull statements, and I admire a fighter who will fight who ever.
  • 02-15-2013, 02:25 AM
    dbader08
    Chael did not have a knockdown. Anderson's hand touched the mat, but this is MMA, not boxing, and fighters know that they can go to the ground without getting a standing 8 count and an automatic 10-8 round. He barely touched the mat to help him regain his balance, whereas Chael got knocked on his ass when he went down. Either way, even if you consider what Chael did a knockdown, it's clear who's was more effective.

    And when you punch someone 320 times and they have hardly any marks, that means soemthing. Anderson got Sonnen to duck his head down with a punch from GUARD. That's the whole reason he was able to set up his triangle, because Chael couldn't handle getting punched from guard. lol. Then there's Anderson, who let Chael hit him a number of times, including the "knockdown", as you call it, where he had his hands down by his side. So you tell me who's strikes are more effective.
  • 02-15-2013, 02:17 AM
    The Donosaur
    Quote Originally Posted by dbader08 View Post
    Right, except that, uhhh...It likely hurts a hell of alot more to get hit with an Anderson Silva punch, elbow, or kick than a punch from Chael Sonnen...as evidenced by the fact that Anderson barely had a mark on his face after the fight even though he ate 320 strikes (most on the ground), and Chael looked pretty beat up. Then of coarse there's the fact that Anderson had a knockdown...

    You do know that all strikes and significant strikes aren't exactly the same right?? You do know that just because fight metric says Sonnen landed a couple more strike standing than Anderson, that that doesn't mean he was the more effective striker whilst standing, right? Out striking someone is a combination of volume and effectiveness. In no way was Chael the more effective striker with what he landed on the feet, so the fact that he may have landed a couple of more strikes on the feet isn't going to sway my opinion any.
    Chael had a knockdown, and more marks on the face do not equal harder strikes.
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