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  • 02-25-2013, 02:57 AM
    Sniggles
    Quote Originally Posted by FFFRpickup View Post
    i agree with silva/soares wanting lucrative fights. but since when is AS pursuing JONES? He said he wouldnt fight jones because he "considers him a friend" before he even met him. The only fights silva is pursuing are lucrative fights...going after the short guys. he has being chasing the 5' 10" GSP for years...and when he cant get GSP..he reaches out to a movie star named cung le....hehe standing at a tall 5' 10". whos NEXT on his long list of lucrative fighters he's pursuing.....hmm...Channing Tatum from "the fighter" im tired of AS....now ALDO is doing the same. god forbid aldo fights somebody his size and skill for a change. there is huge money in rematches. GSP has made crazy money because he gives rematches. trilogys make money.
    Roaddawg is correct.

    Anderson has said many times that he will fight Jon Jones but only after he fights GSP.

    Anderson has always been staring at GSP and his name sitting at the top of P4P charts for years. There has always been a question of who would beat the other because it is not a given despite the size advantage.

    GSP can take down some heavyweights.
  • 02-25-2013, 01:19 AM
    roaddawg
    You gotta get updated man he recently said he would fight Jones later on down the road after he fights GSP (Dana's decision). The GSP super fight is a fight he has wanted years before Weidman was even in the mix (back when people had GSP up on a pedistal calling him #1 P4P).

    I remember Hdnet showing GSP ahead of Silva in the P4P rankings like it was yesterday.


    Quote Originally Posted by lwbrewer View Post
    AMEN on that Doc. If your the champ defend it or leave it.
    As always he will and against an opponent of the UFC's choosing. This is why the fight is now scheduled against Weidman instead of SF mw champion Rockhold.

    Quote Originally Posted by lwbrewer View Post
    I don't think anyone truly believes that there's a 185#that will run through Anderson. It has showen the ground is his weakest point, but still good enough defense to avoid a defeat rarely going past the second.
    If Silva underestimates Weidman or somehow isn't motivated bo fight the man he may not get run through but I don't see a victory (under those conditions). Plus the age difference between those two concerns me.

    Make no mistake about it however I still think Silva is the best mixed martial artist on the planet win, lose or draw but I don't see him as this unbeatable super human either.
  • 02-25-2013, 12:35 AM
    FFFRpickup
    Quote Originally Posted by roaddawg View Post
    This is true neither GSP nor Jon Jones aren't mw contenders but the fact that Silva is pursuing harder fights really makes the argument that he is ducking stiff competition kinda pointless.

    I get the impression that Silva and his camp want both competitive and lucrative fights where the risk atleast equals the reward.





    The UFC is to blame for the poor marketing behind Weidman.

    i agree with silva/soares wanting lucrative fights. but since when is AS pursuing JONES? He said he wouldnt fight jones because he "considers him a friend" before he even met him. The only fights silva is pursuing are lucrative fights...going after the short guys. he has being chasing the 5' 10" GSP for years...and when he cant get GSP..he reaches out to a movie star named cung le....hehe standing at a tall 5' 10". whos NEXT on his long list of lucrative fighters he's pursuing.....hmm...Channing Tatum from "the fighter" im tired of AS....now ALDO is doing the same. god forbid aldo fights somebody his size and skill for a change. there is huge money in rematches. GSP has made crazy money because he gives rematches. trilogys make money.
  • 02-24-2013, 11:31 PM
    MMA4EVERRR
    In all honesty, I feel Weidman is not deserving of a shot just yet. He is by far in the lead for contention, but I feel he needs just one more solid win, and not just to absolutely cement himself as the #1 contender, but also he could do himself a huge favor by fighting one more time after a long layoff.

    He's got solid wins over Maia and Munoz but IMO, neither was Top 5 when he fought them. Both were on the bottom end of the top 10. Mark Munoz had to be the most inflated top 5 MW out there.

    His MW resume when he fought Weidman was 7-1, with wins over Nick Catone, Ryan Jenson, Kendall Grove, Aaron Simpson, CB Dollaway, Demian Maia, Chris Leben and a loss to Okami.

    ONLY ONE guy (Maia) was a top 10 win for Munoz, and I felt Maia had edged him in that fight. Besides that win, NOBODY else was a top 15 MW win for Munoz. Okami was the only other top 5 MW Munoz faced, and he lost decisively, irregardless if the judges saw it as a split.

    IMO, when Weidman faced Maia, he was inside the 15-20 range of the MW rankings. Win over Maia jumped him into the top 10. Both Munoz and him were in the 9-10 range respectively. I feel both just trades places after Weidman won.

    Losses of Bisping, Belcher, Boetch helped Weidman move up the rankings past those guys. I think he should have faced Vitor or Rockhold for #1 contendership. Both guys IMO are a win away as well. Plus for a guy who will not have fought in a year, the last guy u wanna face coming off an injury layoff is Anderson Silva. Smart fighter would have asked for a warmup fight than calling out the champ.
  • 02-24-2013, 11:16 PM
    roaddawg
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. MMA View Post
    I thought you predicted Silva was going to dismantle Weidman?
    I never expect unmotivated fighters to win.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. MMA View Post
    Anyways, Weidman's style isn't close to Fitch's style. He aggressively goes for passes and submissions, and is very fluid on the ground. Not all ground fighters are LnP artists.
    I will sig bet you he wrestles the shit out of Silva the second he gets tagged. He can't compete with Silva's standup or Silva's defense on the ground which constantly gets underestimated.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. MMA View Post
    The bottom line is that if Silva wants to go after the big money fights like GSP or Jones, then he should drop the MW championship and let the division continue. If he doesn't want to drop the MW championship, his #1 priority should be defending the belt.
    No if Silva is given options he should take whichever one bets suits his favor (you would). Silva has always fought whomever Dana has told him to when presented with no options. Let me know if you have seen otherwise.

    You can't hold any fighter accountable for having opinions on whom they would like to fight next.
  • 02-24-2013, 10:56 PM
    lwbrewer
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. MMA View Post
    The bottom line is that if Silva wants to go after the big money fights like GSP or Jones, then he should drop the MW championship and let the division continue. If he doesn't want to drop the MW championship, his #1 priority should be defending the belt.
    AMEN on that Doc. If your the champ defend it or leave it.

    I don't think anyone truly believes that there's a 185#that will run through Anderson. It has showen the ground is his weakest point, but still good enough defense to avoid a defeat rarely going past the second.
  • 02-24-2013, 10:43 PM
    Dr. MMA
    Quote Originally Posted by roaddawg View Post
    I feel kinda bad I'm probably the biggest Silva fan here and yet you guys seem to think he is going to beat Weidman. I on the other hand think he is going to get smother fucked Fitch style.

    I guess I should have more faith in my boy.
    I thought you predicted Silva was going to dismantle Weidman?

    Anyways, Weidman's style isn't close to Fitch's style. He aggressively goes for passes and submissions, and is very fluid on the ground. Not all ground fighters are LnP artists.

    The bottom line is that if Silva wants to go after the big money fights like GSP or Jones, then he should drop the MW championship and let the division continue. If he doesn't want to drop the MW championship, his #1 priority should be defending the belt.
  • 02-24-2013, 07:37 AM
    roaddawg
    I feel kinda bad I'm probably the biggest Silva fan here and yet you guys seem to think he is going to beat Weidman. I on the other hand think he is going to get smother fucked Fitch style.

    I guess I should have more faith in my boy.
  • 02-24-2013, 01:01 AM
    rivethead
    Quote Originally Posted by roaddawg View Post
    This is true neither GSP nor Jon Jones aren't mw contenders but the fact that Silva is pursuing harder fights really makes the argument that he is ducking stiff competition kinda pointless.
    I'm not making that argument.
    I'm making the argument that he's ducking Weidman.

    I get the impression that Silva and his camp want both competitive and lucrative fights where the risk at least equals the reward.
    I agree.

    I think where you and I differ is that I feel he has an obligation to defend at MW, or give up the belt.

    The UFC is to blame for the poor marketing behind Weidman.
    Oh, absolutely. But Anderson's camp is making it worse, effectively shooting themselves in the foot...particularly if he somehow loses.

    rh
  • 02-24-2013, 12:34 AM
    roaddawg
    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    Neither Georges, nor Jones are the best contender available.

    They are not MW's, they are not contenders for the MW belt. If Anderson wants to take vanity fights, I'm 100% fine with that...but I just want him to defend the title a minimum of once a year...against the best contender available.

    I'd prefer that to happen without any pissing and moaning, but I'll take what I can get.
    This is true neither GSP nor Jon Jones aren't mw contenders but the fact that Silva is pursuing harder fights really makes the argument that he is ducking stiff competition kinda pointless.

    I get the impression that Silva and his camp want both competitive and lucrative fights where the risk atleast equals the reward.



    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    If Anderson and soares put half the effort into actually hyping Weidman as they have chasing a reluctant Georges, the fight would be huge. Instead, everything they've said has gone the other way, effectively squelching him as a buy-rate seller.

    rh
    The UFC is to blame for the poor marketing behind Weidman.
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