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  • 03-06-2013, 10:37 AM
    Sniggles
    I wouldn't mind Machida having another fight before his title shot IF Gus is victorious.

    It's not like Dana hasn't gone back on his word of a number 1 contender matchup if the wrong person wins. (Hendo/Bisping)
  • 03-06-2013, 09:49 AM
    initial_zen
    Quote Originally Posted by CtGreat View Post
    Completely different set of conditions Imo.

    Jones title shot

    - Easily hypeable young "undefeated" contender with a good list of dominant finishes.
    -3 weeks short notice fight against the champ
    -no other viable contenders available to replace Evans besides Jones
    -Ryan Bader & Jones were the hottest prospects at 205 at the time, and Jones mopped the floor with him.
    Bader was Jones biggest win at that point, and he may not have even been top 10 during that time. I'm not saying Machida deserves one now, but his last title shot was almost the same predicament that Jons got his from, stepping in when there were no contenders.. With the difference being lyoto (a former champ) recently having a loss to shogun (who was out of the title picture) and rampage (who he should have got the win against and was out of the title picture) but in return had wins over a lot of top 10 competition.

    I'd say give the winner of goose vs mousasi the next shot and have machida get one more win before giving him the shot.
  • 03-06-2013, 08:54 AM
    CtGreat
    Quote Originally Posted by initial_zen View Post
    To be fair, machida stepped in (forget if it was short notice or not) to fight jones when Rashad pulled out of that fight and the ufc didn't have any other contenders.. And if you look at the numbers, machida is actually quite a big draw.

    .. also Jon got his title shot at shogun after beating Ryan Bader.
    Completely different set of conditions Imo.

    Jones title shot

    - Easily hypeable young "undefeated" contender with a good list of dominant finishes.
    -3 weeks short notice fight against the champ
    -no other viable contenders available to replace Evans besides Jones
    -Ryan Bader & Jones were the hottest prospects at 205 at the time, and Jones mopped the floor with him.

    Machida 2nd title shot

    -Got Obliterated by Shogun after winning a very controversial decision victory in the first fight
    -Lost a lackluster decision to Rampage
    -Retired a damn near 50 year old man from MMA
    -Got a gift title shot on 7 weeks notice against Jones of a 1 fight win streak.
    -Got chocked unconscious by Jones in 2 rounds

    Machidas potential 3rd title shot/rematch

    -Beat Ryan Bader, who had just been finished by Tito Ortiz of all people, and since losing to Jones has only beaten a horribly flat Rampage, Jason Brillz, and the Janitor.
    -refused a short notice title fight rematch against Jones
    -Won a very lackluster decision victory against Dan Henderson

    My reasoning is, Machida already got one gift Title shot due to being in the right place at the right time. So i cant view him as deserving of a rematch, a 3rd title shot, when not only was it Jones' lowest PPV draw but there's potential contenders still in the mix.

    I know you didn't ask to know my reasoning, but I felt like fully detailing it for some reason.
  • 03-06-2013, 08:22 AM
    initial_zen
    Quote Originally Posted by CtGreat View Post
    Because just had a gift of a 2nd title shot which resulted in him being choked unconscious by Jones. Since then he beat Bader (a fringe top 8) and had a very lackluster decision victory over Henderson.
    In addition to that, he has pathetic drawing power considering the amount of money he gets paid to fight.

    Do you think he deserves a title shot?
    To be fair, machida stepped in (forget if it was short notice or not) to fight jones when Rashad pulled out of that fight and the ufc didn't have any other contenders.. And if you look at the numbers, machida is actually quite a big draw.

    .. also Jon got his title shot at shogun after beating Ryan Bader.
  • 03-06-2013, 05:32 AM
    CtGreat
    Quote Originally Posted by roaddawg View Post
    I'm sorry why doesn't Machida deserve a shot again?
    Because just had a gift of a 2nd title shot which resulted in him being choked unconscious by Jones. Since then he beat Bader (a fringe top 8) and had a very lackluster decision victory over Henderson.
    In addition to that, he has pathetic drawing power considering the amount of money he gets paid to fight.

    Do you think he deserves a title shot?
  • 03-06-2013, 05:08 AM
    roaddawg
    Quote Originally Posted by FedortheCan View Post
    That's exactly what I want to see. Machida doesn't deserve shit. If Anderson isn't game to fight Jones later this year... I want Goose to get his opportunity (that's if Jones doenst lose to Sonnen and get an immediate rematch.) War Goose
    I'm sorry why doesn't Machida deserve a shot again?
  • 03-06-2013, 02:31 AM
    initial_zen
    I got mousasi in this fight, especially if it is a 5 rounder. I think this is going to be an absolute war, but mousasi will show that he wants it more.
  • 03-06-2013, 02:17 AM
    W.Silva>C.Norris
    so isnt this about where someone should be saying that goose isnt well enough known to casual fans/got his win over a "fat" shogun? Oh wait, wrong division sorry..

    On topic: Id love to see Goose get the big W and title shot. Im very interested to see how jones handles himself without a "drastic" reach and size difference. A win over a talented, tough, and comparably sized contender would go far in silencing a lot of Jones' critics, myself included.
  • 03-06-2013, 02:03 AM
    1inthechamber
    I doubt he finishes Mousasi (if he wins). At this point in his career his tdd is still weak imo. Jones would just get a td and a choke on him.
  • 03-05-2013, 04:12 PM
    JayBird
    I'd love to see that matchup (Goose vs. Jones). I could see Goose giving Bones a really tough fight.
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