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The reason Chuck got KO'd so many times was by leaving his hands down and running right into shots. That's the same reason Wandy got KO'd against Leben and Rampage. That doesn't mean he has a bad chin. He just has to fight smarter, which he has done these past 3 fights. As long as he keeps fighting patiently and only does his crazy punching barrages selectively, he should keep at least doing as well as he has been.
Look at Chucks 4 major knockouts. Led with a body shot against Rampage, exited range with hands down, got caught. Against Rashad, started a combo with an uppercut, other hand was by his waist, got caught. Against Shogun, backed straight up with hands down, got caught. Against Franklin, charged straight in throwing wild shots, got caught with a short counter that wasn't even that hard and got put out cold.
IMO Wandy is holding up better for his age than Chuck was, and his defense is a bit more sound...
I will admit I was ready for him to retire a few fights ago, but his last couple have made me change my mind. It's a great time for him to go. That fight would be a golden exit, and I certainly don't want to see him go out like chuck, or crocop... But I'll respect his desicion as a fighter and a man.
I think he needs to hang out with Mohammad Ali for a little bit... It would be different if he won his fight decisively and without taking huge shots. But honestly that fight could have gone either way. Taking all those head shots can not be good for his health...
Like Pasha said, Wandy just needs to look at the tail-end of Chuck Liddell's career. As great as Chuck was, receiving those brutal KO's did end up hurting his legacy somewhat.
Coming back to Japan after 6 years and knocking out Stann in a fight of the year contender that showcased everything the fans loved about Wandy... that's about as perfect of an ending as you can get.
People want him to retire because they do not want to see his career ending like Lidell's, Crocop's, Sakuraba's and many others.
Of course Wand is still a very good fighter, but he gets knocked down in every single fight so there is always the risk that he may end KOd cold like he did against Rampage and Leben. People do not want to see that, he is one of the most beloved fighters in MMA, maybe the most beloved of all of them.
Also they want him to retire now, because it would be the perfect ending for a brilliant career.
Retire after a KO win over a Top 10/15 guy in the place where he had his best years of glory.
It is much better to retire in that way, rather than retiring after 3 straight loses by brutal KO.
He looked good in his last few fights. Much better than he did in the Leben fight.
I will support Wanderlei as long has he wants to fight. If he wants to keep going for another 10 years, he's earned that right. If he chooses to retire now, he's earned that just as much. The man is an absolute warrior, who shows the respect the sport deserves, even in a loss.
In short, Wanderlei for president.
i dunno man. i don't want wand to take unnecessary punishment either, but he's only got ko'd by people who have serious knockout power. i think i'd be more worried if he was getting ko'd by people who weren't known for doing it. i guess i'm kind of on the fence about this... wand on one hand is still getting those wins and all of his losses aren't like they are knockouts, but.... on the other wand get wobbled pretty damn often and that scares me.
those minor head traumas can't be good for him especially how chute boxe use to train. wanderlei is the man (i don't think anyone would argue against that) and i want him to be happy. i just don't want him to be a punch drunk person by the time he's 40 either. i hope he'll find a happy medium and know when enough will be enough. fans can be greedy so i hope he doesn't listen to everything we want.
Hard to calculate how many hits his head has taken, is some of his talking only due to his lack of english, or numerous wars he's been in?
I like any fights be at catch weight were he doesn't interfear with rankings[ stupid me UFC doesn't use rankings.lol.] Wandi still has much excitement in him just not sure how much damage his head has taken, and if he's already past the limit.
Hopefully he'll hear the public saying retire.
If you're a fight fan in general, you're a fan of Wandy but there's nothing else he needs to prove and he's not gonna be getting a title shot any time soon over other top 5 or 10 guys in the division.
Plus winning by KO in Japan is a great way to put a stamp on his career.