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  • 03-20-2013, 04:49 AM
    Dr. MMA
    I decided to read some of Askren's twitter posts and man that guy trolls hard!
  • 03-20-2013, 12:28 AM
    joeodd2
    I would love to see mop top fight GSP and get thouroughly schooled and humilated. I'm thinking Aoki vs Melendez, but much more embarrasing.....
  • 03-19-2013, 11:00 PM
    K1NG P3NN
    See Koscheck fights.
  • 03-19-2013, 09:44 PM
    Iron Triangle
    Quote Originally Posted by The Muss View Post
    Wow I wonder how many people wouldn't fall asleep during that fight
    It happened to me during GSP vs Shields. First time I ever fell asleep watching a live fight.
  • 03-19-2013, 07:10 PM
    Fedorlei Gomipierre
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. MMA View Post
    I don't think Ellenberger fights that dumb. In he last few fights, he fought well even though he got caught against Kampmann. He knows what GSP will do; try to take him down which is actually incredibly tough against Ellenberger. We all know that Ellenberger has the wrestling skills, but I think Ellenberger has better explosiveness in his hips than guys like Hendricks or Fitch or Kos to stop the takedown. On the feet, GSP will be very cautious but Ellenberger has been showing some solid technique, speed and power in his hands. He however needs to check the kicks better. I agree with you about his cardio; this has always been a concern.

    The reason I like Ellenberger over Hendricks is mainly based on his technique and defense, as other aspects are quite similar. Hendricks has struck gold with his leaping left hooks with his chin out, but one day he may pay for that. Ellenberger doesn't make those mistakes when throwing power.
    I'll concede that Maia is a viable threat to GSP considering how great he's looked since the drop, however I also don't see GSP taking too many more fights after Hendricks at WW, so much of my stance on a GSP/Maia matchup is, like Rory, a fight I don't see happening. That said, I really think GSP's cardio and timing on the feet and constant movement from the periphery are something that Maia won't be able to compete with. I see Maia trying to come in for a trip and eating shots. Maybe I'm downgrading Fitch and Story, but GSP is a far superior athlete and I think he outworks Maia to levels we haven't seen before....

    As for Ellenberger, while he looked great in the Nate fight and is probably one of the most dangerous 2 round fighters, he gave away the Kampmann fight and nearly threw away the Diego fight because of his cardio. I think he gives fighters too many looks and I think GSP outworks him and breaks him down to time his strikes, gas him and then score an armbar.
  • 03-19-2013, 06:59 PM
    Masscore
    If Maia is a threat how isn't Askren a threat? Maia isn't about to submit GSP but he could possibly take him down and hold him down for 5 rounds. Wouldn't Askren do the same thing, with a much better wrestling pedigree then Maia.

    I am not saying Askren would beat GSP, he probably wouldn't. But anyone that thinks Maia is a threat needs to say Askren is a threat.
  • 03-19-2013, 06:28 PM
    Dr. MMA
    Quote Originally Posted by Fedorlei Gomipierre View Post
    I love Maia to death, but I think GSP keeps it standing, sprawls the night away and just uncorks on him for five rounds with his jab and awesome movement. Maia won't be able to velcro himself to GSP's back like he did Fitch(which while impressive, didn't really show me he could close the striking distance against GSP) and I think his striking is STILL too rudimentary for somebody with GSP's versatility.
    Although that's exactly how I would've imagined it when Maia said he was dropping to WW, his wrestling and strength at this weight class have just been incredible. He's taking guys down like Fitch, Story and Kim, which is something I wouldn't have thought. Sure, GSP does have better TDD, but people have rarely tested it in the last few fights. Koscheck was able to get a TD on GSP and if Maia did that, I don't think GSP gets up as easily. Also, if he just tries to pop up when he's taken down, that leaves him quite vulnerable to lose position. I also don't think he fears GSP's standup like he did against Anderson, so he's not going to slow his aggression.

    Maia has been really showing his strengths to a different level at WW, and until he gets shut down before he faces GSP or when he faces GSP, I still think he's a viable threat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fedorlei Gomipierre View Post
    Ellenberger has awesome power, but he fights dumb and gasses after two. That's a perfect recipe for someone with GSP's fight IQ to simply eat alive. GSP will take him down, drain him of his power and then pick him apart. I could really see GSP sneaking up for an armbar in the third on an exhausted Jake. Not a matchup I'm concerned about....
    I don't think Ellenberger fights that dumb. In he last few fights, he fought well even though he got caught against Kampmann. He knows what GSP will do; try to take him down which is actually incredibly tough against Ellenberger. We all know that Ellenberger has the wrestling skills, but I think Ellenberger has better explosiveness in his hips than guys like Hendricks or Fitch or Kos to stop the takedown. On the feet, GSP will be very cautious but Ellenberger has been showing some solid technique, speed and power in his hands. He however needs to check the kicks better. I agree with you about his cardio; this has always been a concern.

    The reason I like Ellenberger over Hendricks is mainly based on his technique and defense, as other aspects are quite similar. Hendricks has struck gold with his leaping left hooks with his chin out, but one day he may pay for that. Ellenberger doesn't make those mistakes when throwing power.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fedorlei Gomipierre View Post
    As for Rory, I didn't even entertain a matchup between the two because they train together and in all honesty, by the time Rory gets his shot, I see GSP either retiring or relinquishing the title to fight Anderson.
    Good point, but who knows what can happen. Until then, I've just kept him as a viable threat. Rory just needs to get some bloody fights in.
  • 03-19-2013, 05:37 PM
    Fedorlei Gomipierre
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. MMA View Post
    Hendricks the biggest and last threat? Currently, there are 4 threats left: Hendricks, Ellenberger, Maia and Rory. I think Ellenberger and Rory are bigger threats than Hendricks (not that Hendricks isn't, because he definitely is).
    I love Maia to death, but I think GSP keeps it standing, sprawls the night away and just uncorks on him for five rounds with his jab and awesome movement. Maia won't be able to velcro himself to GSP's back like he did Fitch(which while impressive, didn't really show me he could close the striking distance against GSP) and I think his striking is STILL too rudimentary for somebody with GSP's versatility.

    Ellenberger has awesome power, but he fights dumb and gasses after two. That's a perfect recipe for someone with GSP's fight IQ to simply eat alive. GSP will take him down, drain him of his power and then pick him apart. I could really see GSP sneaking up for an armbar in the third on an exhausted Jake. Not a matchup I'm concerned about....

    As for Rory, I didn't even entertain a matchup between the two because they train together and in all honesty, by the time Rory gets his shot, I see GSP either retiring or relinquishing the title to fight Anderson.
  • 03-19-2013, 02:10 PM
    sonofsteven
    Quote Originally Posted by VimyRidge View Post
    Funny how people talk like GSP was fighting a couple of bums instead two of the top contenders in the division.
    I'm I must have missed when GSP fought Johnny hendricks after he beat carlos Condit. Because those were the two top contenders. Not Diaz . Not by a country fucking mile my man.
  • 03-19-2013, 01:27 PM
    MIZjitsZOU
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. MMA View Post
    Hendricks the biggest and last threat? Currently, there are 4 threats left: Hendricks, Ellenberger, Maia and Rory. I think Ellenberger and Rory are bigger threats than Hendricks (not that Hendricks isn't, because he definitely is).
    I think Maia is a huge threat. If he can take Fitch down and handle him like that then GSP could be in for a fight. Maia took five rounds of Anderson's standup, so you would think he could at least hang in the stand up long enough to get it to the ground.
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