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  • 04-05-2013, 10:46 PM
    roaddawg
    It's kinda funny when you think about it because you would assume the main event would be the FOTN. Instead the main event is usually upstaged by fighters in the smaller weight classes. Hell some could even argue that the main event is typically one of the least eventful fights.
  • 04-05-2013, 08:21 AM
    Dr. MMA
    Quote Originally Posted by roaddawg View Post
    If thats the case FOTN is completely subjective and the FOTN champion is clearly Joe Lauzon. I would imagine most of the FOTN champions should be those fighters in the lighter weight classes.

    Its not because they are more skilled but more because they lack the ability to finish fights quickly. I dunno it just seems like an award that would b geared more towards lw/fw.
    Definitely. I think there are stats that show that there is a linear relationship between finishing rate and weight class, i.e., the lower weight classes finish less, as predicted.

    And as you mentioned, most of the FOTN champions should and are those fighters in the lighter weight classes such as Lauzon, Edgar, Guida, Sanchez, Lytle, Stout, Wiman, Nate Diaz, etc.

    I do think the lighter fighters are also the more skilled fighters in general. This is not just in MMA, but in boxing and amateur wrestling as well. Their technique is usually much more polished, they are generally more well rounded, and they have cardio for days to keep it at an intense pace. There are the exceptions with the very top of the higher weight classes (such as Cain, Jones and Anderson) but generally when you look deep into each weight class, it's the lighter weight classes that are on average more skilled.

    Quote Originally Posted by initial_zen View Post
    16 of joes 22 wins are in the first round.. I don't think he lacks the ability to finish fights early. But I will agree that he is one of the most exciting fighters ever.
    Definitely agree. His ability to showcase his technique at such an intense pace is remarkable.
  • 04-05-2013, 05:29 AM
    roaddawg
    Quote Originally Posted by initial_zen View Post
    16 of joes 22 wins are in the first round.. I don't think he lacks the ability to finish fights early. But I will agree that he is one of the most exciting fighters ever.
    That wasn't directed at J-lo but more towards the lw/fw divisions. They don't hit like hws so one could argue that its a little harder for them to end fights quickly. The likelihood of a fight going back/forth is more probable.
  • 04-05-2013, 05:04 AM
    drake_411
    Gotta go with Wanderlei
  • 04-05-2013, 04:11 AM
    initial_zen
    Quote Originally Posted by roaddawg View Post
    If thats the case FOTN is completely subjective and the FOTN champion is clearly Joe Lauzon. I would imagine most of the FOTN champions should be those fighters in the lighter weight classes.

    Its not because they are more skilled but more because they lack the ability to finish fights quickly. I dunno it just seems like an award that would b geared more towards lw/fw.

    Ofcourse there will always be one offs like Hunt vs Struve.
    16 of joes 22 wins are in the first round.. I don't think he lacks the ability to finish fights early. But I will agree that he is one of the most exciting fighters ever.
  • 04-05-2013, 03:51 AM
    roaddawg
    If thats the case FOTN is completely subjective and the FOTN champion is clearly Joe Lauzon. I would imagine most of the FOTN champions should be those fighters in the lighter weight classes.

    Its not because they are more skilled but more because they lack the ability to finish fights quickly. I dunno it just seems like an award that would b geared more towards lw/fw.

    Ofcourse there will always be one offs like Hunt vs Struve.
  • 04-05-2013, 03:37 AM
    Dr. MMA
    Quote Originally Posted by roaddawg View Post
    How is FOTN gaged because it seems like highlight reeling to an early KO/TKO goes against the fighters. It seems silly that a fighter would have to get punched in the face to get FOTN.
    A highlight reel of fighter A dominating/outclassing fighter B is a great display of fighter A's performance, but it does not equate to an exciting fight or FOTN. In my opinion that was Anderson's best performance to date as he completely trashed the former LHW champion, but a fight of the night it was not.

    And to answer your question on how FOTN is gauged. It does seem like UFC leans heavily towards back and forth fights or slug fests.
  • 04-05-2013, 03:32 AM
    roaddawg
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. MMA View Post
    Anderson, much like GSP, also does have a few questionable bonus awards. Mendes should've got the KO bonus over him at UFC 148, his FOTN against Forrest in a 3 minute fight is questionable but his KO that night was definitely legit, and his FOTN against Hendo at UFC 82 is also questionable and should've gone to Kos/Hazelett. Nonetheless, those aren't as absurd as GSP/Kos getting the FOTN at UFC 124.
    How is FOTN gaged because it seems like highlight reeling to an early KO/TKO goes against the fighters. It seems silly that a fighter would have to get punched in the face to get FOTN.
  • 04-05-2013, 02:39 AM
    Sakara=Excitement
    Outside of watching Alessio fight, I really enjoy Carlos Condit.
  • 04-05-2013, 01:56 AM
    Dr. MMA
    Quote Originally Posted by YukonJordan View Post
    Well the UFC does favor it's main event far too much when it comes to these awards.

    Anderson's numbers are good example. I can't think of one fight where he should be the fight of the night. There isn't one back and forth good fight on his resume.
    Anderson, much like GSP, also does have a few questionable bonus awards. Mendes should've got the KO bonus over him at UFC 148, his FOTN against Forrest in a 3 minute fight is questionable but his KO that night was definitely legit, and his FOTN against Hendo at UFC 82 is also questionable and should've gone to Kos/Hazelett. Nonetheless, those aren't as absurd as GSP/Kos getting the FOTN at UFC 124.
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