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  • 04-10-2013, 05:38 AM
    Rise
    Quote Originally Posted by RearNakedStroke View Post
    As I finished reading the original post this is pretty much exactly what I was going to post, right down to the Jones/Sonnen example. I really hope espn and all the other major sports media start to blast the UFC more about their title shots. I imagine it will start to happen more as the promotion for 159 gets into full gear.
    It would be nice if the UFC was called out on this by someone that could have an effect on them. The pressure would have to come from high level sponsors though. Dana hasn't been shying about getting into fights with the media when ever the UFC is scrutinized including espn. Only way they will get the message is if they lose money and it's very unlikely that fans will boycott over it.
  • 04-10-2013, 02:27 AM
    roaddawg
    Quote Originally Posted by GangGreenWarrior View Post
    There was been a lot of discussion lately about GSP fighting Diaz over Diaz and what level of ducking this is view as. I am curious what the consensus among people on the forum is.

    Edit: I tried submitting a poll but the website screwed up. I wanted my options to be:

    1) GSP full out ducked Hendricks to fight Diaz. GSP has lost a lot of credibility in my eyes.

    2) GSP should have fought Hendricks but I am ok with him fighting Diaz. GSP lost some credibility but not too much

    3) GSP has never asked for a fight in his career so I am not bothered at all by him asking for the Diaz fight. He has lost very little credibility.

    4) I view Diaz as the better opponent for GSP and don't see GSP as losing any credibility.

    Hopefully someone with forum powers greater than my own can fix this for me. Thx.
    Is it really ducking if you are fighting the guy next in line anyways? The fight with Diaz was a personal fight that GSP wanted long before Diaz lost to Condit. It's well known.
  • 04-09-2013, 09:53 PM
    W.Silva>C.Norris
    quack. Either fight the number 1 contender, or forfeit your belt and pick and choose your opponents. What makes it even worse, is that GSP is supposed to a be a poster boy for this "sport", and instead chose to make a spectacle instead of a sporting event.
  • 04-09-2013, 09:49 PM
    macewen
    GSP hasnt lost any credibility to me, he has always fought who was in front of him, and beat them handily. I remember at one time he hadnt lost a round in like, 30 some rounds or something stupid. IF GSP is lookin at winding down his career, Im 100% positive it isnt because Hendricks is #1 contender. GSP is the man, in and out of the cage.
  • 04-09-2013, 04:57 PM
    GangGreenWarrior
    I feel somewhat that GSP was in a catch 22 with some of the staunch duck callers around. If he didn't fight Diaz at some point in his career, I could see those people being supporters of the "GSP ducked Diaz his whole career" camp. It was a fight people had been wanting for years and there was a really small window to have that fight in. I see having the Diaz/GSP fight occur with a small few upset over ducking preferable to having those two never fight and cause an endless debate of what would have happened if they fought.
  • 04-09-2013, 03:24 PM
    Bork_Lazer
    To answer the question I would say GSP lost no credibility. The answer I think lies on Hendricks mostly. Hendricks became the number one contender only after Kampmann, that shit decision over Kos in no way made him an undisputed number one contender. The situation here is that Hendricks had to fight one extra fight to get his shot, not 2 like people like to think, not the end of the world.
  • 04-09-2013, 06:38 AM
    RearNakedStroke
    Quote Originally Posted by Rise View Post
    Really I hold the UFC more at fault for Diaz getting the fight over Hendricks. GSP made his choice based on financial gain and personal animosity which I don't think really should be to much of a fault or a loss of credibility on his end.

    The UFC is is supposed to be the one that is impartial and dictating that the deserving contenders get title shots. I'm a bit surprised really that Dana/Zuffa are not getting flak for this like they are in the Sonnen/Jones case. The situations aren't much different really.
    As I finished reading the original post this is pretty much exactly what I was going to post, right down to the Jones/Sonnen example. I really hope espn and all the other major sports media start to blast the UFC more about their title shots. I imagine it will start to happen more as the promotion for 159 gets into full gear.
  • 04-09-2013, 06:21 AM
    Fe1
    1) If you're the champion and you choose to fight anyone other than the #1 contender, you're ducking the #1 contender.

    I like GSP and all, but making Hendricks wait, and giving Diaz (who is in my mind, an easy opponent for GSP) a title shot is absolutely ridiculous.
  • 04-09-2013, 06:21 AM
    GangGreenWarrior
    I myself lean to the 3 or 3.5 ranking myself. Plus, GSP had been fed a few wrestlers lately so a BJJ guy was a good change of pace before he beats another wrestler.
  • 04-09-2013, 06:20 AM
    Rise
    Really I hold the UFC more at fault for Diaz getting the fight over Hendricks. GSP made his choice based on financial gain and personal animosity which I don't think really should be to much of a fault or a loss of credibility on his end.

    The UFC is is supposed to be the one that is impartial and dictating that the deserving contenders get title shots. I'm a bit surprised really that Dana/Zuffa are not getting flak for this like they are in the Sonnen/Jones case. The situations aren't much different really.
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