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  • 05-11-2013, 02:14 AM
    lwbrewer
    Very true Goremire MMA your not only worried about punches when there's takedowns, elbows, kicks, & knees. My self not great at seeing all of the boxing technique A boxing only fan wouldn't be good at seeing a grappling technique.

    I've stated before there's a need to put on a grappling match on fox to educate the fans the judges and maybe the ref's only needs to be 5minutes and should be scripted so commentary can go with it. There's always time to fill as not all fights go the distance. Even have the judges score it under MMA rules so they can see what they missed or misunderstood.
  • 05-11-2013, 12:21 AM
    Goremire
    Quote Originally Posted by H0SS View Post
    I've noticed boxing fans have kind of an elitist attitude. A lot of them love to tout the intricacies involved in the "sweet science", but fail to acknowledge that MMA is equally (and in my opinion even more so) complex.

    They are both great sports. I used to be a big boxing fan. But after having become an MMA fan, boxing has lost some of its luster in my eyes. Weak undercards, lack of stars, too many belts/weight-classes, etc...
    Yep, MMA is no more two tattooed meatheads rolling around than boxing is two meatheads whaling on each other.

    I argued this point with a friend of a friend who has that elitist boxing attitude you were talking about. His reasoning was that from his limited experience in watching MMA was that their boxing was sloppy. While conceding that the overall standard of striking in MMA is not great compared to boxing or K1, I pointed out that MMA fighters don't have the time to focus solely on one discipline, and that due to the complexities of the sport deficiencies in one area can be compensated for in another. Also that MMA fighters have more variables to consider, and that what may look like poor boxing form may actually be entirely appropriate given the situation and opponent.
  • 05-10-2013, 10:22 PM
    roaddawg
    Quote Originally Posted by Goremire View Post
    So if I trawl YouTube I'll find videos of MMA fighters stating they would beat boxers in boxing?

    I like boxing, but I like MMA better. I agree the pissing contest about which sport is better is fuelled by both sides. I don't get it: I've never heard of tension between cyclists/swimmers/runners and triathletes before.
    I agree I see no reason why both sides can't coexist. I personally think most of this shit started from a discussion about fighter salaries.







  • 05-10-2013, 09:31 PM
    stpierrecanada
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyMoore View Post
    I understand this doesnt really need to be said, but Jesus, Cain is NOT the motherfucker to be calling out if you're a boxer.
    LOL Hear that. Randy Couture is one thing but Cain, thats balsy...IF he mans up.
  • 05-10-2013, 09:13 PM
    H0SS
    Quote Originally Posted by Goremire View Post
    So if I trawl YouTube I'll find videos of MMA fighters stating they would beat boxers in boxing?

    I like boxing, but I like MMA better. I agree the pissing contest about which sport is better is fuelled by both sides. I don't get it: I've never heard of tension between cyclists/swimmers/runners and triathletes before.
    I've noticed boxing fans have kind of an elitist attitude. A lot of them love to tout the intricacies involved in the "sweet science", but fail to acknowledge that MMA is equally (and in my opinion even more so) complex.

    They are both great sports. I used to be a big boxing fan. But after having become an MMA fan, boxing has lost some of its luster in my eyes. Weak undercards, lack of stars, too many belts/weight-classes, etc...
  • 05-09-2013, 01:53 PM
    Dan
    I really can't believe we're actually still having the MMA vs Boxing debate, talking about Cain and Fury. It's all a matter of probabilities for a start, so nothing is "for sure" or definite. The reason why we all love MMA (and boxing) is because they're unpredictable, but the probabilities would suggest that Cain would beat Fury pretty easily, as the probability of fighting landing on the ground is huge right from the start, coupled with Cain's wrestling it becomes inevitable. From there it wouldn't even be competitive.

    As for how Cain would fair if he were to cross into boxing (for arguments sake): The result would likely be the opposite. Fury's not the greatest boxer that has ever lived, but he certainly knows how to box better (for boxing) than Cain, and would probably beat him relatively easily too (and probability would allow for an upset in both fights).
  • 05-09-2013, 07:19 AM
    Goremire
    Quote Originally Posted by roaddawg View Post
    The war between boxing and MMA is all over Youtube. Im pressed for time and can't do the video hunting but Youtube would be a good starting place.

    Everyone has their hands dirty in the MMA Vs Boxing war from Dana White to James Toney. Then we also have the fans of both sports pushing up shit.

    In my eyes both sides are just as guilty but very few will step up to the plate and do something about it.

    So if I trawl YouTube I'll find videos of MMA fighters stating they would beat boxers in boxing?

    I like boxing, but I like MMA better. I agree the pissing contest about which sport is better is fuelled by both sides. I don't get it: I've never heard of tension between cyclists/swimmers/runners and triathletes before.
  • 05-09-2013, 05:25 AM
    roaddawg
    Quote Originally Posted by Goremire View Post
    Granted, but how many MMA champions have you heard bragging about how they would head on over to boxing and kick the champions ass in a boxing ring? Has Bendo called out Mayweather recently? Has GSP thrown down the gauntlet to Chad Dawson? Did Jon Jones let slip that he's going to take a sabbatical from MMA to kick Marco Huck's ass and take his WBO Cruiserweight title back to the UFC? Did I miss that?

    I remember JDS mentioning a while back that he felt he could have some success against the Klitchkos in a boxing match, but beyond that this shit is always one way traffic.

    The war between boxing and MMA is all over Youtube. Im pressed for time and can't do the video hunting but Youtube would be a good starting place.

    Everyone has their hands dirty in the MMA Vs Boxing war from Dana White to James Toney. Then we also have the fans of both sports pushing up shit.

    In my eyes both sides are just as guilty but very few will step up to the plate and do something about it.

  • 05-09-2013, 02:08 AM
    Goremire
    Quote Originally Posted by Caine2878 View Post
    Well for one a MMA guy wouldn't have a chance in a boxing match with elite boxers. An elite boxer will always have a punchers chance in an MMA match which is why that traffic swings one way. But its never the elite boxers that are saying this just the guys that are either trying to make a name for themselves (Fury) or the ones trying to remain relevant (Toney)

    I'd argue that an MMA fighter would probably last longer in a boxing ring, and be more competitive than a boxer fighting MMA. After all, elite MMA fighters train boxing, so its not like they'd be complete fish or anything. How often do boxers roll, or train to throw or defend kicks?

    What's that you say? How did Ray Mercer go against Tim Sylvia after Sylvia's camp made a last minute switcheroo and made their scheduled boxing bout an MMA fight? Why, I have no idea what you're talking about
  • 05-08-2013, 10:29 PM
    Caine2878
    Quote Originally Posted by Thamob View Post
    Actually I believe Floyd talked alot of trash about MMA as well. He's an idiot though.
    Yea he talked bad about the sport in general but I don't recall him ever saying he would come to MMA and beat a champ or anything like that.
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