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  • 04-27-2013, 08:57 PM
    Sniggles
    Matt Mitrione’s suspension is already over


    UFC heavyweight Matt Mitrione was suspended on April 8 for his transphobic comments about trans fighter Fallon Fox. At the time, the UFC said they were "appalled" by his comments and said his words were "wholly unacceptable."

    Yet now, on April 25, Mitrione is off suspension and has a fight scheduled. Mitrione will fight fellow "The Ultimate Fighter" castmember Brendan Schaub on the July 27 UFC on Fox 8 show.

    122 days passed between Mitrione's last two fights. By the time he gets in the cage with Brendan Schaub at UFC on Fox 8, 112 days will have passed since his knockout of Philip de Fries. How is that a suspension?

    Here we have the problem with MMA and suspensions. This isn't like football or basketball, where every athlete has the same amount of events, and a suspension of five games means the same thing for everyone. In MMA, some fighters fight once a year. Some fight four times a year. For a suspension to mean anything, it has to be for several months, and a fighter's ability to get in the cage must be affected.
  • 04-27-2013, 02:12 AM
    Cat--Smasher
    Mitrione apologizes for insensitive comments on trangendered Fallon Fox - Mixed Martial Arts News
    "I want to apologize for my hurtful comments about Fallon Fox and a group within our society which, in truth, I know nothing about," Mitrione told MMAjunkie.com (UFC blog for UFC news, UFC rumors, fighter interviews and event previews/recaps). "I know now there’s an important line between expressing an opinion on a subject and being hurtful and insensitive. I crossed that line by expressing my views in an ugly, rude and inappropriate manner."
  • 04-19-2013, 04:00 PM
    TheKidInside
    Yay.
  • 04-19-2013, 01:56 PM
    rivethead
    Well, I'm off to buy a lottery ticket.

    The Sox have won 8 out of their last 10, my kids slept in their own rooms last night, they got one of the terrorist douchebags in Boston, and dana white has handled a controversial topic while sounding like a rational, intelligent person.

    I'm clearly in bizzarro-world.


    And in bizzarro-world, anything can happen. when I do hit the lottery, I'm buying the front 3 rows of the next good UFC events, and all you nutjobs are invited.

    But you have to wear tee shirts that say nice things about me.

    rh
  • 04-19-2013, 05:26 AM
    Cat--Smasher
    UFC boss Dana White gives take on transgender fighters, offers Mitrione update | News
    I'm not mad at Mitrione," White said at today's pre-UFC on FOX 7 media session. "He did something stupid. He knows he did something stupid. He knows the way he said it, he didn't handle it the right way. He knows he did, so I can respect that.

    "We'll let him know when we decide (how long the suspension will last). He was fined, too – enough to make him call me three times. I bet he'll think. I bet before words come out of his mouth … he's going to go, 'I better not say that. That's not good. That's going to cost me some money.'"

    This past week, during an appearance on The MMA Hour, Mitrione called transgender fighter Fallon Fox a "lying, sick, sociopathic, disgusting freak." In response, the UFC issued statement saying the heavyweight's contract had been suspended while the incident was investigated.

    White said that investigation included a phone call with the heavyweight, who was immediately regretful for his choice of words.

    "From the first day we talked, he handled the whole thing like a man," White told MMAjunkie.com (UFC blog for UFC news, UFC rumors, fighter interviews and event previews/recaps). "He said some ignorant comments that made him sound like a complete jackass and a bigot. He knew what he said was wrong."

    The incident – and Fox, herself – have become hot-button topics in MMA as the community tries to educate itself on the plight of transgender fighters while also determining how to treat them moving forward. White said he's all for healthy debate and even suggested he doesn't currently believe a woman born as a man should be allowed to compete against other women. However, he said Mitrione's approach to the situation was simply not appropriate.

    "It's not that I don't necessarily agree with what [Mitrione] was saying because I have the same issue with a man who becomes a woman," White said. "You have different bone structure. You have a different jawline. You have all the things of a man. It's completely different. But he knew what he did was wrong. If he was standing in front of a panel or a judge, and he was arguing on why someone who used to be a man shouldn't be allowed to fight a woman, he wouldn't have said it the way that he said it. He would have said it completely different, and there's nothing wrong with having a point of view.

    "Everybody's crying, 'Oh, it's freedom of speech.' Yeah, OK. Work at any company in the world, OK, and give your opinion where you come off sounding like an ignorant bigot and see how long you last with that company. He could have done it the right way, and nobody would have said anything to him. He can have an opinion. It's just how you state your opinion."

    For now, the state of Florida has agreed on Fox's right to compete as a woman, leading some to question White as to whether or not he would allow her to compete in the UFC. White has chosen to largely deflect the issue by pointing out Fox is nowhere near UFC ready.

    "The Fallon Fox thing, I mean I don't even think about it," White said. "Fallon Fox is so far from being in the UFC. It's like talking about some lower level guy that fights in some smaller organization that's beat people with losing records, and we're seriously debating about the guy."

    That said, White knows it's an issue that's not going to just go away but admits he's not the most qualified individual to make a ruling on the future of transgender athletes in the sport.

    In 2004, the International Olympic Committee adopted a set of rules that outlined the requirement for a transgender athlete to compete, a set of guidelines that requires surgery and at least two years of hormone therapy. But thus far, the Olympics has yet to see a transgender athlete compete in a combat sport, such as boxing. White said he'll likely use the IOC's precedent – whenever it's ultimately set – as a guiding principle.

    "My thought was that running, pole vaulting and doing all these things is whatever, but when you actually get physical and you start punching? But I'll leave that up to people that are smarter than me," White said. "If scientists want to go in and say if you get this operation done and the hormones that you get put on change your physical structure and your strength, I'll leave it up to the professionals and let them decide.

    "If this thing happens at an Olympic level, and I mean an Olympic level where there's a combat sport that accepts it, I'm sure they're going to do the homework, and smarter people than me will make that decision."

    In the meantime, Mitrione will remain on the sidelines until further notice. White would not reveal the amount of the fine (though he did say Mitrione's reaction was, 'Come on dude, seriously. This much?'). But he said he's ready to forgive and move on.

    "He did he right thing," White said. "If he got on the phone and said, 'Hey, I've got my freedom of speech, and I can say what I want,' I guess to a point he's right. You just can't work here if you want to say stupid stuff like that. You can say whatever you want. Not in here, though."
  • 04-12-2013, 07:47 PM
    lwbrewer
    Quote Originally Posted by KevoOnTheRadio View Post
    And if anybody knows what it takes to be a piece of shit, its Koppenhaver.
    And Bill Murray endorses that statement
  • 04-12-2013, 04:26 AM
    KevoOnTheRadio
    And if anybody knows what it takes to be a piece of shit, its Koppenhaver.
  • 04-12-2013, 04:09 AM
    Cat--Smasher
  • 04-12-2013, 02:19 AM
    optimusjoel
    Quote Originally Posted by joeodd2 View Post
    This is actually quite true. You have more "normal acting" gay men out there than those who are "fabulously flaming". They are the silent majority. Kind of reminds me of this scene from one of the greatest movies ever made....


    William Dafoe: "Cuddle!?!.....what a fag...."
    Yeah no kidding, look how the prison system is overflowing with homosexuals (I'm not joking).
  • 04-12-2013, 02:09 AM
    joeodd2
    Quote Originally Posted by FedortheCan View Post
    Funny you say that dude. True story, I know gays that use the word fag/faggot all the time. They don't like the "bitchy" or girly acting gay men and feel like they give them a bad name. I don't know how else to explain it, but that's how it was explained to me.
    This is actually quite true. You have more "normal acting" gay men out there than those who are "fabulously flaming". They are the silent majority. Kind of reminds me of this scene from one of the greatest movies ever made....


    William Dafoe: "Cuddle!?!.....what a fag...."
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