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  • 05-10-2013, 04:31 PM
    roaddawg
    Personally I am chopping all of this up as "shit happens". It's not like its a routine thing for Silva to miss media events despite not being a fan of the media.

    Fans need to get a kleenex and keep it moving. For whatever the reason he missed the event. It's done.

    Justin Timberlake's "Cry Me A River" song comes to mind.
  • 05-10-2013, 04:28 PM
    Fedorlei Gomipierre
    Quote Originally Posted by KevoOnTheRadio View Post


    One of my favorite rants of all time.
    Love it. I'm gonna go with one of my all time favourite NFL coaches, a true badass and just an awesome man, Herm! I use this rant once a week, MINIMUM.

  • 05-10-2013, 03:34 PM
    Sniggles
    It's nice to wish athletes were role models with integrity, but not everyone is cut from the same cloth.

    I don't believe Anderson will come out and say anything, nor do I believe that he cares about what the internet fans say. I would like to believe that he feels bad for letting down the fans that came out to see him that day, but I doubt it.

    Being in the public eye is the same as being a politician. When you fuck up, try to spin it if it needs to be spun or wait til someone fucks up worse. Of course you won't get a genuine response, if there is one it will be a measured response that is good for his image. The real Anderson Silva is the guy who is in the gym with friends or home with family, not the one doing interviews.
  • 05-10-2013, 03:33 PM
    rivethead
    Quote Originally Posted by Sniggles View Post
    Yes it is too much to ask.
    really?

    You can't change Anderson Silva by talking about what a horrible person he is for missing a minor media event and disappointing fans. By all means, go ahead and try.
    I'm not trying to change anyone, least of all Anderson Silva. I don't even think he's a bad person. I don't know anything about him, he's probably a pretty normal guy. I think he has to deal with an incredibly fucked up industry, and a LOT of parasites who leech his talent, and I could easily see the concerns I have as being developed at having to routinely deal with an abnormal situation.

    What I was saying is that I don't feel his word can be trusted any more than dana's word. So once again, we have he said/she said melodrama in the place of valid news.

    Bet there are some people in your life who wish they could change a few things about you.
    I bet there are. Often, if I believe they have integrity, I try to listen to what they say, and sometimes I even do it.

    rh
  • 05-10-2013, 03:17 PM
    Sniggles
    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    Is it really so much to ask for [everyone] to be credible people? For them to be men who can be trusted?

    rh
    Yes it is too much to ask.

    You can't change Anderson Silva by talking about what a horrible person he is for missing a minor media event and disappointing fans. By all means, go ahead and try.

    Bet there are some people in your life who wish they could change a few things about you.
  • 05-10-2013, 01:40 PM
    rivethead
    sooooo...

    dana says he knew, and he's going to fine him what amounts to about 1% of what he'll make for one fight. Anderson refutes and says he didn't know about the media event, he was focused on training.

    The sad part for me--realizing that these are two of the premier figures in the industry--is that I don't feel like either of them are particularly believable. dana is a mouthpiece who will say whatever he thinks will make him a dollar, or whatever he thinks will perpetuate whatever street credibility he's garnered. If dana told me water was wet, I'd get a second opinion.

    Anderson trolls the media relentlessly, and goes back on his word whenever it suits him. He's not going to fight for a year, then he'd be happy to jump in and save a card, he's not going to fight, then he'll happily face Bonnar, etc. And that's just in the last year.




    Is it really so much to ask for sports figures to be credible people? For them to be men who can be trusted?

    rh
  • 05-10-2013, 01:26 PM
    KevoOnTheRadio
    Quote Originally Posted by Fedorlei Gomipierre View Post
    I'm biased here. I find watching Anderson utterly thrilling and unparalleled in the level of electricity and enjoyment derived from watching him ply his trade. Personally, watching him fight is a special treat that won't be around forever. It's special watching top guys like Jones or GSP too, but Anderson is on a different level, only matched by Fedor, in that there's an incredible aura and mystique around them and you're seeing someone truly transcend the sport and at any moment, you might see something "once in a lifetime" impressive.

    So....with that out of the way, IMO if he wants to skip a press junket, he's earned his spot in history and can call his own shots. I know his PPVs aren't probably what they'd be if he SOLD the fights better, but for me, I'd give Anderson special treatment because he's just so damn good.

    I dunno, 50k is probably a drop in the bucket anyways, but it reminded me of the Iverson practice fines, in that it is more of a reminder to the rest of the roster than nobody is infallible and must be held accountable. As said above, who knows if Anderson himself will even pay the fine out of his pocket.

    Again, I'm a mark for him, I get this from a business perspective and trying to sell the fight, but I think his name and reputation alone sells the PPV and he's earned the ability to act like a diva(if this is the case)...


    One of my favorite rants of all time.
  • 05-10-2013, 03:25 AM
    Sniggles
    Quote Originally Posted by Fedorlei Gomipierre View Post
    I'm biased here. I find watching Anderson utterly thrilling and unparalleled in the level of electricity and enjoyment derived from watching him ply his trade. Personally, watching him fight is a special treat that won't be around forever. It's special watching top guys like Jones or GSP too, but Anderson is on a different level, only matched by Fedor, in that there's an incredible aura and mystique around them and you're seeing someone truly transcend the sport and at any moment, you might see something "once in a lifetime" impressive.

    So....with that out of the way, IMO if he wants to skip a press junket, he's earned his spot in history and can call his own shots. I know his PPVs aren't probably what they'd be if he SOLD the fights better, but for me, I'd give Anderson special treatment because he's just so damn good.

    I dunno, 50k is probably a drop in the bucket anyways, but it reminded me of the Iverson practice fines, in that it is more of a reminder to the rest of the roster than nobody is infallible and must be held accountable. As said above, who knows if Anderson himself will even pay the fine out of his pocket.

    Again, I'm a mark for him, I get this from a business perspective and trying to sell the fight, but I think his name and reputation alone sells the PPV and he's earned the ability to act like a diva(if this is the case)...
    Did Fedor spend more of his time promoting fights or preparing for fights?

    Sure, Anderson could learn better English and act like Chael Sonnen. But, will it change how he fights in the ring?

    No.

    I watch Anderson for what he does in the Octagon not outside of it. I don't really care that he missed a "minor media event", which was not a press conference for his fight. Silva could have 1000s of different reasons for being unable to make it. MMA media won't report the whole story though, instead it will write an article off of a twitter post or 30 seconds of an interview that someone else obtained and then the fans will be reactionary as per usual.
  • 05-10-2013, 03:22 AM
    Fedorlei Gomipierre
    I'm biased here. I find watching Anderson utterly thrilling and unparalleled in the level of electricity and enjoyment derived from watching him ply his trade. Personally, watching him fight is a special treat that won't be around forever. It's special watching top guys like Jones or GSP too, but Anderson is on a different level, only matched by Fedor, in that there's an incredible aura and mystique around them and you're seeing someone truly transcend the sport and at any moment, you might see something "once in a lifetime" impressive.

    So....with that out of the way, IMO if he wants to skip a press junket, he's earned his spot in history and can call his own shots. I know his PPVs aren't probably what they'd be if he SOLD the fights better, but for me, I'd give Anderson special treatment because he's just so damn good.

    I dunno, 50k is probably a drop in the bucket anyways, but it reminded me of the Iverson practice fines, in that it is more of a reminder to the rest of the roster than nobody is infallible and must be held accountable. As said above, who knows if Anderson himself will even pay the fine out of his pocket.

    Again, I'm a mark for him, I get this from a business perspective and trying to sell the fight, but I think his name and reputation alone sells the PPV and he's earned the ability to act like a diva(if this is the case)...
  • 05-10-2013, 03:05 AM
    roaddawg
    Quote Originally Posted by Fe1 View Post
    If I chose not to go into work tomorrow and didn't tell anyone, I'd probably get fired. I think most people on here could probably say the same. Now while I'm not saying that the (arguably) best fighter in the world should be fired, I'm saying that there should be serious consequences for showing that kind of unprofessionalism. Especially at this level. 50k to a guy like Anderson is not that much.
    If you were making your company millions of dollars and was seen as a one of a kind employee I'm pretty sure you wouldn't get fired for missing one day of work.

    You on the other hand are expendable.
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