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  • 07-03-2013, 03:09 AM
    cnlclink
    Quote Originally Posted by Sniggles View Post
    I meant to put Belfort in place of Shogun. I must have highlighted and erased a segment leaving Shogun behind. I was discussing Jones' title defenses but felt the commentary unnecessary and deleted it.
    Ah ok, thanks hahaha. Makes sense totally to me now.

    As for Machida getting a title shot with a win over Davis is dubious at best, he's 3-3 lately and his best win has been over Hendo I think. A win here will put him on 3 fight winning streak. A rematch with Evans would be nice someday too.
  • 07-03-2013, 02:20 AM
    Sniggles
    Quote Originally Posted by cnlclink View Post
    I'm a tad confused, are you saying Shogun did the best overall against Jones? My memory is telling me that was the worst beatdown Jones has put on anyone so far, Sonnen perhaps but he manhandled Shogun. So I'm wondering if I have misunderstood.
    I meant to put Belfort in place of Shogun. I must have highlighted and erased a segment leaving Shogun behind. I was discussing Jones' title defenses but felt the commentary unnecessary and deleted it.
  • 07-03-2013, 02:17 AM
    initial_zen
    Quote Originally Posted by cnlclink View Post
    I'm a tad confused, are you saying Shogun did the best overall against Jones? My memory is telling me that was the worst beatdown Jones has put on anyone so far, Sonnen perhaps but he manhandled Shogun. So I'm wondering if I have misunderstood.
    Shogun was definitely one of jones' worse beat downs. He had a horrible game plan going into the fight. You can't put yourself into those sketchy situations against jones, going for flashy moves was a huge mistake. Losing position should be the last thing you want to do against gnp like his. Shogun needed to be more technical and less brawly like he was in the first machida fight.
  • 07-02-2013, 02:39 AM
    cnlclink
    Quote Originally Posted by Sniggles View Post
    You are absolutely correct in that regard. Bonnar was the one who did the best against Jones. But I would also happen to agree with RD. Jones is no longer the same fighter. The cascade of money has changed his training in turn his physical condition.

    I still think that it is Machida who has done best against Jones in the striking department during his title reign, while Shogundid the best overall. Rashad was far too timid against Jones. I really was disappointed, as I was looking forward to that fight for such a long time.

    I'm a tad confused, are you saying Shogun did the best overall against Jones? My memory is telling me that was the worst beatdown Jones has put on anyone so far, Sonnen perhaps but he manhandled Shogun. So I'm wondering if I have misunderstood.
  • 06-30-2013, 06:59 AM
    Sniggles
    Quote Originally Posted by roaddawg View Post
    I believe Dana is trying to screw Machida over for not fighting Jones when he wanted him to.
    Pretty much. Had Machida accepted the fight, Jones would have fought Machida rather than Sonnen.
  • 06-30-2013, 06:48 AM
    CtGreat
    Quote Originally Posted by VimyRidge View Post
    I don't think he had Jones that frustrated. Jones has been destroying everyone, Machida was doing ok in the first and Jones was having a bit of trouble finding his range, but I don't think he was even close to giving Jones problems.

    Big deal, Machida landed a few punches, if that was any other fighter, no one would have said that Machida was close to victory, it is just being blown out of proportion.
    Completely agree.
  • 06-30-2013, 06:28 AM
    fishy
    Machida without a doubt has the skills to beat Jones. That's a rematch I would live to see. I don't think Jones will catch him with a submission again nor will he be able to take him down and if he does he won't be able to keep him there which should make for an interesting stand up battle.
  • 06-30-2013, 12:17 AM
    roaddawg
    I believe Dana is trying to screw Machida over for not fighting Jones when he wanted him to.
  • 06-29-2013, 03:48 AM
    Sniggles
    Quote Originally Posted by Masscore View Post
    Bonnar hands down. People forget the Bonnar fight but he actually had Jones in real trouble in the 3rd round. If that was a five round fight there is a real good chance Bonnar would have pulled it off because Jones was dead on his feet in the 3rd. Everyone the next day started to question Jones' cardio.
    You are absolutely correct in that regard. Bonnar was the one who did the best against Jones. But I would also happen to agree with RD. Jones is no longer the same fighter. The cascade of money has changed his training in turn his physical condition.

    I still think that it is Machida who has done best against Jones in the striking department during his title reign, while Shogundid the best overall. Rashad was far too timid against Jones. I really was disappointed, as I was looking forward to that fight for such a long time.
  • 06-29-2013, 03:45 AM
    m1ckeykn0x
    He won the first round on points and because Jones respected Machida while he was feeling him out and figuring out what he needed to while Machida was on the offensive. Once he did, Machida was dead on the feet.

    But hey, I'm all for a rematch. I would love to see Jones have the opportunity to beat Machida for the second time as I would like to see what Machida would try to do differently.

    If Jones destroys Machida a second time comparable to the first, I wonder where Machida will go from there. He has the style and abilities to stop up and comers. He will be like Shang Tsung to Shao Kahn.
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