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  • 07-10-2013, 01:47 AM
    rivethead
    Quote Originally Posted by roaddawg View Post
    What were the reach advantages between AS and Griffin/Bonnar especially with Bonnar where the fight ended in a knee strike?
    Anderson actually has a reach advantage on Forrest.
    Forrest = 77"
    Anderson = 77.6"

    Forrest is an inch taller, giving him 0.4 length advantage overall. Considering Forrest is often described as a "huge" LHW, that's an indicator of the ridiculous reach advantage Anderson enjoyed for the bulk of his career.

    Bonnar had almost a two and a half inches of reach on Anderson, and two inches in height.

    Obviously, neither Forrest nor Bonnar have KO power, or particularly good striking.

    Also I am guessing you think very low of Jon Jones whose never beaten anyone even remotely close to his dimensions.
    I think Jones is a very talented, very young fighter who is still growing into his frame and actively developing his skills.

    That being said, I can't help but laugh at anyone who seriously thinks Jones is p4p elite at this point in his career--let alone proclaiming him #1. If all fighters were the same size, I don't believe Jones wouldn't be a top 5 LHW. If Aldo had Jones' physical gifts--even proportionate to his weight class--he'd have run through the LW division already and would be aiming for a third belt at WW.

    rh
  • 07-10-2013, 01:35 AM
    roaddawg
    What were the reach advantages between AS and Griffin/Bonnar especially with Bonnar where the fight ended in a knee strike? Also I am guessing you think very low of Jon Jones whose never beaten anyone even remotely close to his dimensions.
  • 07-09-2013, 03:28 PM
    Sakara=Excitement
    Quote Originally Posted by Sniggles View Post
    MMA is a game of inches more so than football.
    And porn.
  • 07-09-2013, 03:14 PM
    rough-n-tumble
    Quote Originally Posted by cpac77 View Post
    This was the first fight in Anderson's career where he did NOT have the reach advantage. Every other guy he has fought took swings at his face and their arms weren't long enough to reach him. Weidman's arms were. It really is that simple fellas.
    Good point. And Weidman stepped into the space Silva created and committed to landing his punches. He mentioned it during the post fight interview that he decided he was just going to "go for it". It worked.

    Anyone else get a bad feeling for Weidman when he taunted and let Silva take two free shots to his face?

    Weidman may or may not have elite skill set of Silva's, but he committed himself to win in that fight.
  • 07-09-2013, 12:31 AM
    Sniggles
    MMA is a game of inches more so than football.
  • 07-08-2013, 10:44 PM
    cpac77
    I"m surprised no-one here brought up this little fact.

    This was the first fight in Anderson's career where he did NOT have the reach advantage. Every other guy he has fought took swings at his face and their arms weren't long enough to reach him. Weidman's arms were. It really is that simple fellas.
  • 07-08-2013, 10:34 PM
    rodneykm
    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    deadly juice-monster



    I laughed. I admit it.
  • 07-08-2013, 08:50 PM
    H0SS
    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    a lot of that has to do with the standard zuffa sets with it's marketing, and the bullshit dana pulled on Fedor. With a huge influx of MMA fans coming to the sport because of the UFC, guys who don't know anything better than to hang on dana's words [or joe rogaine's], they're going to emulate that kind of fickleness, even if it's not a conscious decision.

    But it's still sad.

    rh
    I see what you did there...
  • 07-08-2013, 03:36 PM
    Sniggles
    Quote Originally Posted by initial_zen View Post
    In fairness, the same shit will be pulled on any fighter people think is the greatest. Once they lose, the mma community will dismiss the legacy they built and earned. Our community is harsh that way. The end of fighters careers seem to be almost the only thing that people remember about the mma greats. They look back at the people they fought, with no context, and dismiss them.
    The plebs like to see champions fall. Makes them feel happy about themselves.
  • 07-08-2013, 03:34 PM
    Supe
    I dont think alot of us are fickle. The people hoping to see AS lose were happy to see it, the people that enjoy seeing him prance around with his hands down and KO guys were disappointed. The only 'fickle' thing in this situation was the change in normal results. When you fight with the style AS chose to you are going to win in impressive, untouchable-appearing fashion or your going to fuckin dropped like a bag of dirt and look like a moron. Pretty impressive that this only the first time in 17 fights the latter has happened.
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