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  • 08-06-2013, 10:25 PM
    IceCold48
    Quote Originally Posted by Fe1 View Post
    He wasn't able to face top competition due to visa issues. That doesn't mean that his wins aren't impressive.
    yes it does, it doesn't mean that he would not have beaten top level guys but it doesn't make beating up on nobodys in Brazil impressive.
  • 08-06-2013, 10:23 PM
    IceCold48
    HAHA bader is literally the prototypical gate keeper.

    Jones got a title shot after beating him, machida did too but it got taken away and now he is standing between glvoer and a title shot.
  • 08-06-2013, 09:29 PM
    kalebarker
    Quote Originally Posted by Fe1 View Post
    Gilbert Melendez is ranked #1 at LW, Jacare is ranked #5 at MW, and Saffedine is ranked #8 at WW. Who of these guys has beaten anyone in the top ten in UFC? None of them but no one questions their ranking. It's all based on their fights outside of UFC.
    A lot of that is because how well Strikeforce fighters have transitioned to the UFC. Lawler, Jacare, Thomson, Masvidal, and Healy have looked really good, Melendez too.
  • 08-05-2013, 10:19 PM
    Sniggles
    Would rather see Glover than Davis up next for Jones, so I am not complaining.
  • 08-05-2013, 09:13 PM
    SimpleJack
    I probably should have said his opponent list is unimpressive.

    Like I said, this isn't a condemnation of Tex, just that people are overvaluing him at this point.
  • 08-05-2013, 08:41 PM
    Fe1
    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleJack View Post
    However, none of Tex's wins outside of the UFC were noteworthy either. At least Jacare and Gil have some impressive wins outside.
    He wasn't able to face top competition due to visa issues. That doesn't mean that his wins aren't impressive.
  • 08-05-2013, 02:26 PM
    SimpleJack
    Quote Originally Posted by Fe1 View Post
    Gilbert Melendez is ranked #1 at LW, Jacare is ranked #5 at MW, and Saffedine is ranked #8 at WW. Who of these guys has beaten anyone in the top ten in UFC? None of them but no one questions their ranking. It's all based on their fights outside of UFC.
    However, none of Tex's wins outside of the UFC were noteworthy either. At least Jacare and Gil have some impressive wins outside.
  • 08-05-2013, 01:57 PM
    initial_zen
    Quote Originally Posted by MMA4EVERRR View Post
    Beating Bader gave Jones a shot at the title. Prior to that he was coming off wins against Vlad, Vera, and Hamill (loss on paper but everyone knows it was a win). At the same time, outside of Rashad, the rest of the division didnt establish themselves as true contenders yet. Jones was just climbing into the top 10 at this point and got the shot.
    Rashad getting injured before his fight with shogun gave Jones the title shot. The win over Bader did raise his stock a fair amount though, but Bader was also undefeated at the time and looked like he would eventually be fighting for the title. Baders lost a little momentum since then.
  • 08-05-2013, 08:19 AM
    Fe1
    Gilbert Melendez is ranked #1 at LW, Jacare is ranked #5 at MW, and Saffedine is ranked #8 at WW. Who of these guys has beaten anyone in the top ten in UFC? None of them but no one questions their ranking. It's all based on their fights outside of UFC.
  • 08-04-2013, 09:43 PM
    MMA4EVERRR
    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleJack View Post
    I don't disagree but let's be honest, beating bader is worth what?

    Either way, jones needs fresh meat and has dominated the whole class so I'm fine with it. I just debate his rank considering his résumé.
    Beating Bader gave Jones a shot at the title. Prior to that he was coming off wins against Vlad, Vera, and Hamill (loss on paper but everyone knows it was a win). At the same time, outside of Rashad, the rest of the division didnt establish themselves as true contenders yet. Jones was just climbing into the top 10 at this point and got the shot.

    Glover, with a win over Bader, would still have the longest winning streak at LHW, outside of Goose. Guys like Rashad, Machida (after yesterday's loss), Hendo, Lil Nog (who is just too injury prone to ever be considered a contender), Mousasi, all need to establish themselves with solid wins.

    I agree, his rank is too high for someone without any top 10 wins, even if he was #9-10, he has a better case for a shot than anyone else at LHW.
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