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  • 09-19-2013, 11:53 AM
    FFFRpickup
    I remember reading online somewhere that when the Gracies started the ufc thing back in 1992 they requested that there are NO Judo guys allowed to enter the competition. I myself believe this to be true. A good majority of the brazillian subs came from judo so it makes sense that they would not want to fight them as they have knowledge of the moves and would school them seeings that the gracie family seems have missed the natural physical gifts.
  • 09-19-2013, 12:46 AM
    Pasha K
    Yes obviously they should do what they can do best, but he is criticizing his own family for training other things and not only BJJ.

    In 1994 you knew BJJ and it was more than enough, because the opponents were absolutely clueless about what was an armbar. They had some karate background and that was it. They had no any idea on how to defend a takedown, much less what to do in the ground.
    Back then, the sports was basically a battle between a Boxer vs a Judoka, or a Karateka vs a wrestler, or a street brawler vs a soldier.

    But now, it is MMA fighter vs MMA fighter. They absolutely all train punches, kicks, takedowns, submissions, takedown defense, submission defense, strenght, cardio etc.

    It is very retarded to say that you can just train one discipline and be successful in modern MMA.

    Obviously they should use BJJ as their main weapon, but they should learn other things too.
  • 09-18-2013, 06:40 AM
    MIZjitsZOU
    You have to be multi dimensional to be at the top but don't forget what brought you to the dance. Look at d Maia and his resurgence at 170. For some reason he thought he would become a striker. Now that he is back to doing what he does best, grappling, he is having success. Stupid though for him to think just Gracie JJ would be enough. Even at my bjj gym we have Wednesday as wrestling night where we have a former college wrestler come in and teach.
  • 09-18-2013, 05:11 AM
    The Donosaur
    "Crawl atop me and meet your doom!"-Artie Ziff
  • 09-18-2013, 12:21 AM
    Pasha K
    LOL Someone tell Royce that we are in 2013 and not in 1995 anymore.
    Tell him that MMA even 10 years ago and MMA now are 2 whole different sports.

    BJJ was enough when your opponents had no idea what to do in the ground so you could easily take them down and submit them.
    Now they all know how to defend takedowns and how to defend submissions.
    He is absolutely delusional if he thinks that being one dimensional is enough.

    Damn, he himself realized back in 2006 that he was not in the 90s anymore.
    I do not understand how someone like him can say such stupid things.

    It is like saying "I am a boxer, and I do not need to learn anything else. The fight begins standing, so I automatically have an advantage and I will KO anyone before they even try to take me to the ground".

    And yeah, the comment about the title shot simply shows that Gracie has no any idea on what he is talking about.
  • 09-17-2013, 11:18 PM
    Sniggles
    Quote Originally Posted by initial_zen View Post
    I didn't watch the Tim Kennedy fight, but it does seem like some bs to cut him after just that loss. Was the fight that bad?
    I think it was another instance where the company did not feel the fighter, Roger Gracie, was worth his price tag. I assume that more was expected for his level of compensation.
  • 09-17-2013, 11:02 PM
    initial_zen
    I didn't watch the Tim Kennedy fight, but it does seem like some bs to cut him after just that loss. Was the fight that bad?
  • 09-17-2013, 11:50 AM
    The8thPlague
    Pretty much everything he said in this article was retarded. But THIS was the topping on the cake:
    If Roger had defeated him, he’d have deserved a title shot.
  • 09-17-2013, 11:27 AM
    Ginmortal
    Yes, Hoyce is right... like the kind of training he did for the Matt Hughes match... pure Gracie JJ... I bet that is the greatest example of how GJJ only for MMA works out...
  • 09-17-2013, 10:28 AM
    Esox Express
    The old-school Gracie mentality is just too stubborn. A one-dimensional fighter won't find anything beyond marginal success against modern competition. Royce must have forgotten about that whole Matt Hughes thing too...
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