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  • 09-21-2013, 08:36 PM
    CapCee
    Quote Originally Posted by VimyRidge View Post
    How much do top 10 heavy weight boxers make? Dana is paying his boys peanuts.
    Compared to boxers, yes. But unfortunately for MMA fighters, that's irrelevant in this situation.
  • 09-21-2013, 06:01 PM
    rivethead
    Quote Originally Posted by Pasha K View Post
    Why they would be worried about that?
    AO may dominate everybody and become champion in Bellator or WSOF, but at the end no one will consider him a legit Top 5 fighter because everybody will remember how much he failed in the UFC.
    you fail to recognize how good AO's marketing is. Before he'd beaten a top 10 fighter--ever in his career--he had people ranking him top 5...some even top 3. He managed to turn the whole SF debacle around so that ignorant fans were convinced Fedor was ducking him, instead of the other way around.

    AO gets picked up by Bellator, kicks over a few more cans, and comes up with an excuse for his performances, and people will be convinced he'd kill JDS and Cain at the same time. If he has a great showing where he doesn't gas in the first 4 minutes, people will declare he's solved his greatest weakness, and his marketing machine will kick into overdrive.

    keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer...? Bellator is picking up interest with utter washouts like rampage, whom nobody has been convinced was top 5 since 2009, AO would be a very charismatic big fish in a very shallow pond. dana can talk all the shit he wants about him, even a juicing AO is more likeable than dana white.

    rh
  • 09-21-2013, 04:55 PM
    VimyRidge
    Quote Originally Posted by Pasha K View Post
    Why they would be worried about that?
    AO may dominate everybody and become champion in Bellator or WSOF, but at the end no one will consider him a legit Top 5 fighter because everybody will remember how much he failed in the UFC.
    It might be smart of Dana. AO could/should have beat his last 2 opponents but blew both fights. He definitely has the talent to be a top 5 fighter. It would be great for Dana if AO loses all his UFC fights and then goes to Bellator and destroys their competition.
  • 09-21-2013, 04:52 PM
    VimyRidge
    Quote Originally Posted by CapCee View Post
    It's not smart business to pay a fighter $200k-300k each fight when they have no momentum behind them (0-5 combined in their most recent outings).
    How much do top 10 heavy weight boxers make? Dana is paying his boys peanuts.
  • 09-20-2013, 04:41 PM
    Pasha K
    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    and they'd be worried about another org picking up AO.

    rh
    Why they would be worried about that?
    AO may dominate everybody and become champion in Bellator or WSOF, but at the end no one will consider him a legit Top 5 fighter because everybody will remember how much he failed in the UFC.
  • 09-20-2013, 04:31 PM
    _DCdoctr_
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  • 09-20-2013, 04:20 PM
    rivethead
    I can't see them cutting either guy. I think Frank stays under contract and goes into the booth, and they'd be worried about another org picking up AO. I'd bet they'd try to restructure his contract--he may quit, like Werdum did--but I don't see them cutting him.

    rh
  • 09-20-2013, 02:27 PM
    Pasha K
    Reem is obviously the big favorite, but damn, he was also a huge favorite against BigFoot and Browne.

    If Overeem loses for sure he will get cut. If Mir loses I am not sure that he will get fired. He has lost to Top 5 fighters and he has been a UFC fighter so many years.
    So maybe, they will give him one last chance.

    If they fire him, Bellator will be so happy to announce their new HW superstar in their already super stacked HW division LOL
  • 09-20-2013, 12:48 PM
    JPeezy
    I think as soon as this match was booked we all knew it was a "you're fired" match. Mir is probably better off in the broadcast booth anyway. I still want to see 'Reem get wrecked by Dos Santos before he's done.
  • 09-20-2013, 12:46 PM
    Masscore
    Quote Originally Posted by CapCee View Post
    It's not smart business to pay a fighter $200k-300k each fight when they have no momentum behind them (0-5 combined in their most recent outings). Guys getting cut isn't just about rankings. It's about their performance compared to the return on the investment. Wonder why James Toney didn't get a second fight even though his only loss was to an immortal MMA legend? Not worth the money he's asking to try to sell his next fight coming off that performance.
    In the NFL, for example; when teams are making cuts at the end or preseason, you're more likely to see a solid starter get released if he's making $6mil a year but the team thinks he's worth $4mil, than you are to see his backup get released who's only making $500k.
    Cutting Mir would do more harm than good for the UFC. Bellator would sign him in a heart beat and Mir would be a much bigger signing than Rampage or Tito, as he is more well known and far more popular than either of them. So keeping him around and paying him is better than letting Bellator take him and getting money out of him.
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