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  • 09-30-2013, 09:03 PM
    Cat--Smasher
    http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/0...allenger-okami
    Bellator's Rebney noncommittal about signing former UFC title challenger Okami
  • 09-29-2013, 10:48 PM
    Sniggles
    It's his fighting style. You cannot deny this. Okami is being pushed to develop a standup game.

    I see Okami going to ONE FC or WSOF. Yes, Okami is a top 5 MW still. Yes, the move is terribly inept if you look at his skill level rather than his marketability. But, Okami vs. Weidman is probably something the UFC doesn't want to see down the road unless Yushin improves his vertical game.

    Yushin doesn't need wrestling lessons from Chael; Okami needs lessons on how to appeal to the American audience.
  • 09-29-2013, 10:23 PM
    Sakara=Excitement
    UFC is a business. I'm confused how this is still an issue.
  • 09-29-2013, 04:50 PM
    Cat--Smasher
    WSOF Executive VP Offers Yushin Okami a Home in Their Organization via Twitter
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  • 09-29-2013, 11:34 AM
    travtera
    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    Dan, I know you're a big fan, but if there is a MW gatekeeper in the UFC, it's been Bisping...for years now.

    Okami didn't get cut for being a gatekeeper. He didn't even get cut for being on the decline. He got cut because he's a guy who just goes out and does his job, he doesn't talk shit, he doesn't seek attention, he just goes out and fights. He's a top 5-7 talent that isn't controversial enough for the UFC...and worse, he's able to beat more charismatic guys and that would mess up the zuffa marketing machine.

    And it's all about the zuffa marketing machine. It's not about talent, it's about sales.

    rh
    I agree except for the fact that UFC has been making Japan a regular stop the last couple of years and you'd think it'd be worth hanging on to a guy that would be marketable there. With Akiyama and Kid Yamamoto constantly shitting the bed, at least Yushin would give the Japanese fans something to cheer about! I guess not! And when you look at who they've been slotting in on the bottom portion of pay-per-views lately, I really question getting rid of recognizable top ten talent. I hope it works out well for Yushin and he cuts a good deal to close his career.
  • 09-29-2013, 10:30 AM
    Fe1
    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    Dan, I know you're a big fan, but if there is a MW gatekeeper in the UFC, it's been Bisping...for years now.

    Okami didn't get cut for being a gatekeeper. He didn't even get cut for being on the decline. He got cut because he's a guy who just goes out and does his job, he doesn't talk shit, he doesn't seek attention, he just goes out and fights. He's a top 5-7 talent that isn't controversial enough for the UFC...and worse, he's able to beat more charismatic guys and that would mess up the zuffa marketing machine.

    And it's all about the zuffa marketing machine. It's not about talent, it's about sales.

    rh
    I hate that you're right...
  • 09-29-2013, 08:53 AM
    rivethead
    Dan, I know you're a big fan, but if there is a MW gatekeeper in the UFC, it's been Bisping...for years now.

    Okami didn't get cut for being a gatekeeper. He didn't even get cut for being on the decline. He got cut because he's a guy who just goes out and does his job, he doesn't talk shit, he doesn't seek attention, he just goes out and fights. He's a top 5-7 talent that isn't controversial enough for the UFC...and worse, he's able to beat more charismatic guys and that would mess up the zuffa marketing machine.

    And it's all about the zuffa marketing machine. It's not about talent, it's about sales.

    rh
  • 09-29-2013, 03:28 AM
    Dan
    I don't think this is as bad a move as some other guys have suggested. If Okami is coming towards the final run of his career, then why not remain active outside of the UFC, win a title over in Japan or elsewhere (I'm sure Bellator or even BAMMA will be clamouring to get their hands on him), and make a tonne of money to lead him into retirement.

    White made a good point, Okami has become a gate-keeper for the division, and when you combine that with a technically-impressive but not fan-friendly style, and a bulging roster, it isn't much of a surprise that Okami has been given his walking papers.

    I think Okami might get some impressive victories against lesser competition, maybe win a title, and will close out his career back in the UFC.
  • 09-29-2013, 02:16 AM
    Pasha K
    Quote Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement View Post
    Um the sport is called MMA, not UFC
    When did I said the opposite thing?

    The UFC has been a business since day 1. This is news to you?
    No, that is why I said "This only confirms once again what everybody already knows"
  • 09-29-2013, 12:46 AM
    Sakara=Excitement
    Quote Originally Posted by Pasha K View Post
    In few words, this only confirms once again what everybody already know: UFC is first and foremost a business. The sport aspect is way behind.
    Um the sport is called MMA, not UFC. The UFC has been a business since day 1.

    This is news to you?
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