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  • 10-20-2013, 01:33 PM
    MMA4EVERRR
    Quote Originally Posted by Pasha K View Post
    He was not in the Top 10 when he faced Roy Nelson.

    I do not see Miocic beating the likes of Overeem, Browne, Barnett or Cormier. Let alone JDS and Cain
    True, but you could tell from his past fights, that Stipe was a potential top 10 HW. But then again Schaub and Mitrione appeared the same but both have had a few losses that have set them back.

    I give him a solid chance of beating guys like Rothwell, Silva, Hunt, Gonzaga, Browne, and Overeem. He's got solid striking and wrestling, and he showed in the Nelson fight that he can fight strategically with his mobility. And the more weapons you have in the HW division, the better your chance of succeeding.
  • 10-20-2013, 01:27 PM
    Pasha K
    Quote Originally Posted by MMA4EVERRR View Post
    Stipe beats Kongo, Mitrione, Schaub, Herman, and possibly Struve in a rematch as well.
    He was not in the Top 10 when he faced Roy Nelson.

    I do not see Miocic beating the likes of Overeem, Browne, Barnett or Cormier. Let alone JDS and Cain
  • 10-20-2013, 01:12 PM
    Cat--Smasher
    Quote Originally Posted by Leucoethiops View Post
    I think we can all agree that it's time for Nelson v. Hunt.
    Can I get a hell ya... but can we make it a one rounder?
  • 10-20-2013, 01:10 PM
    Leucoethiops
    I think we can all agree that it's time for Nelson v. Hunt.
  • 10-20-2013, 12:59 PM
    MMA4EVERRR
    Quote Originally Posted by Pasha K View Post
    Stipe Miocic disagrees
    Stipe beats Kongo, Mitrione, Schaub, Herman, and possibly Struve in a rematch as well.
  • 10-20-2013, 12:57 PM
    Pasha K
    You get him in there with some guys that aren't, and he looks like a world-beater
    Stipe Miocic disagrees
  • 10-20-2013, 12:27 PM
    Cat--Smasher

    UFC boss Dana White: I try to like Roy Nelson, but he's delusional

    http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/1...hes-delusional

    Contrary to popular belief, I try so hard to like Roy Nelson," White said to a small group of reporters following Saturday night's post-UFC 166 press conference. "It's like I saw him backstage before I came out to talk to you guys. I was like, 'What's up Roy? You looked good. You lost weight,' and this and that. Then I come out and hear the stupid s--t he said to you guys right before I walk out there."

    Cormier (13-0 MMA, 2-0 UFC) and Nelson (19-9 MMA, 6-5 UFC) met in the co-feature of Saturday's "UFC 166: Velasquez vs. dos Santos III" event in Houston's Toyota Center. The contest wound up being fairly one-sided, as a FightMetric report gave Cormier an edge of 74-17 in significant strikes, as well giving him credit for three successful takedowns, while Nelson didn't have any.

    All three judges awarded Cormier the bout, 30-27.

    After the loss, Nelson said he wasn't all that impressed with his opponent's performance.

    "He didn’t engage me really," Nelson said. "That’s not to take anything away from Cormier, but it's tough to fight like that. He's a great fighter, but it's frustrating."

    White was shocked at the evaluation.

    "He said Cormier wasn't engaging enough," White said. "He outwrestled him, and he punched the living s--t out of him. How much more does he want to be engaged? He says some dumb s--t, and he's very delusional.

    "He says we've never given him a title shot when we should have given him a title shot. Every time you get that close to a title shot, you get beat by the best in the world. That's why you've never had a title shot."

    The loss was Nelson's second consecutive defeat, and he's looked relatively flat in both affairs. It's a disappointing result from Nelson, who admitted his training camp had been extremely difficult but raised a few eyebrows with a slimmed-down physique. Still, after a 4-1 stretch had some fans wondering if "Big Country" could possibly earn a shot at UFC gold, the back-to-back losses have left him a difficult spot.

    White contends he still has respect for the heavy hitter but admits he's not Nelson's biggest fan at the moment.

    "The guy says the dumbest s--t I've ever heard in my life, and he's very delusional," White said. "That being said, I think he's an incredibly tough guy. With his physique an everything, I'm blown away how he can compete at this level and how talented he is and what a great chin he has. But very time he gets above No. 5, he looks like he doesn't belong in the top-10, you know what I mean?

    "You get him above No. 5, and he doesn't look like he belongs in the top-10. You get him in there with some guys that aren't, and he looks like a world-beater, and everybody starts yelling, 'He should get a title shot.' And then you see him fight guys who are athletic and talented, and he looks like he doesn't belong in the top-10."

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