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  • 10-25-2013, 10:53 PM
    Fe1
    ...and it's free
  • 10-25-2013, 10:46 PM
    Sniggles
    Quote Originally Posted by Cat--Smasher View Post
    Looks like Bellator PPV buys are not the only ones struggling... One of the UFC's best cards of the year pulled in some shitty numbers:
    Report: UFC 166 pay-per-view buys 'hugely disappointing' following 'low' numbers for UFC 165
    http://www.mmamania.com/2013/10/25/5...appointing-mma
    Both companies overprice their product.
  • 10-25-2013, 10:19 PM
    VimyRidge
    Surprised no thread for Bellator tonight, some pretty good fights again. Nasty cut in the last fight, not sure what the doctor was doing when he kept stretching the cut open.
  • 10-25-2013, 12:12 PM
    Twist of Lemon
    I just can't believe they're pushing Tito/Rampage over Chandler/Alvarez. I honestly would have considered buying it if wasn't billed as wash up vs wash up. Just doesn't sit right with me.
  • 10-25-2013, 09:59 AM
    Cat--Smasher
    Looks like Bellator PPV buys are not the only ones struggling... One of the UFC's best cards of the year pulled in some shitty numbers:
    Report: UFC 166 pay-per-view buys 'hugely disappointing' following 'low' numbers for UFC 165
    http://www.mmamania.com/2013/10/25/5...appointing-mma

    According to a report by Dave Meltzer in this week's Wrestling Observer newsletter, the past two UFC PPV events have performed under expectations (subscription required, and highly recommended).

    It’s far too early to get an accurate PPV number, but the early trends are, at least to me, hugely disappointing. When Jones vs. Alexander Gustafsson did far lower than any Jones show to date, it had the built in excuse of being one week after Mayweather vs. Alvarez. While the boxing/MMA crossover isn’t that large, that event, when you’re talking 2.2 million buys at $75 a head and the fight that everyone was talking about, that is the exception. Dana White has said that the number (which he wouldn’t reveal) was better than he expected, but he’s also a bigger boxing fan than most.

    Various sources have pegged it as lower than the Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Timothy Bradley boxing match seven nights earlier. No national number has been released for that fight either. Like with Jones, this based on earliest samples, looks to be the lowest Velasquez main event. That’s saying something since his last fight was with Bigfoot Silva, who he had massacred a year earlier, and was on a show with a strong undercard.

    Although, as Meltzer pointed out elsewhere in his Observer article, 2013 is on pace to be UFC's most profitable year on PPV since the blockbuster numbers they did in 2010, the low buy rates for UFC 165 and UFC 166 beg the question why so many fans weren't buying what the company was attempting to sell them this past fall.

    There are a number of possible mitigating factors potentially at work here. Obviously being scheduled one week after the Floyd Mayweather vs. Canelo Alvarez bout did UFC 165 no favors, but unlike a Mayweather fight, Marquez vs. Bradley wasn't the type of event where the whole world stops and pays attention. It should have had a negligible effect on UFC 166.

    UFC's move last August from the highly-rated cable powerhouse FX to the start-up FOX Sports 1 also needs to be considered. With UFC Countdown and "Primetime" specials now being viewed by a far smaller audience, it logically follows that PPV would take somewhat of a hit.

    However, if one looks for a common denominator between UFC 165 and UFC 166, the thing that immediately comes to mind is the lukewarm job of promotion the main event fighters did for both shows.

    Jon Jones was so dismissive of Alexander Gustafsson in the weeks leading up to their light heavyweight title tilt at UFC 165, that every time he opened his mouth he seemed to reinforce the widespread belief Gustafsson had no chance against him. The "Mauler" gave decidedly lackadaisical interviews himself, which left fans with little reason to want to see him fight Jones other than that he was logically the next guy in line given his long winning streak.

    Velasquez and dos Santos fared no better in the pre-fight excitement department. Although Velasquez may be perhaps the greatest heavyweight in UFC history inside the cage, outside it he's one of the dullest interviews the division has ever seen.

    Junior Dos Santos was slightly better than Velasquez in explaining why fans should care about UFC 166 -- how could he not be -- but his story that he had over-trained before his loss to Velasquez at UFC 155 late last year, and would come in at 100 percent this time, just wasn't enough to convince fans of the necessity of purchasing the rubber match between the two.
  • 10-24-2013, 08:39 PM
    cnlclink
    If I wind up not working I will likely buy it. I love the two real title fights...scratch two and put one real title fight, a gifted title shot and a joke title shot along with a joke of a main even that 5 years ago would have been ok. Still Chandler and Alvarez though a gifted title shot is one hell of a fight and to me worth it. So here's hoping I'm off. I am not buying it due to the attempt at a fight between Tito and Rampage.
  • 10-24-2013, 06:43 PM
    Ginmortal
    It's not so much that people want Bellator to fail... I personally want them to make it.. however... they are doing everything in their power to fail... first was the Eddie Alvarez contract situation, then moving away from their model, then leaving Askren out... and then the direct involvment with TNA which is in itself in some trouble... plus the hiring of UFC rejects... and then pushing such rejects as "Main Event"...
    Bellator was doing fine, growing slowly, but surely, with a conservative approach, developing their own talent, creating name recognition... and for their first PPV... this is it?? Chandler/Alvarez II as co main event?? C'mon...
  • 10-24-2013, 04:43 PM
    mma #1 fan
    Quote Originally Posted by SwordofAres View Post
    What I don't understand is why so many of you seem to be cheering for Bellator to fail? The last thing this sport needs is another promotion going away.

    This card is not half as bad as some of you are making it out to be. I, for one, will be ordering it.
    i dont want them to fail but dont give a rats ass if they do
    i want them to stay free
  • 10-24-2013, 04:35 PM
    Fedorlei Gomipierre
    I like the overall card, especially Chandler/Eddie II and Curran/Straus, but the Kongo and Tito/Rampage bouts are zero interest to me and Mo/Newton doesn't really pop.

    Will probably go in on it with friends, I'm sure the main event will be a total "burn ward" for laughs, which should be worth something....
  • 10-24-2013, 04:02 PM
    Fe1
    They will not get my money. They're lucky to get my attention.
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