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  • 11-11-2013, 12:08 AM
    There should be more breaks IMO. Non title and main events fights should be five four minute rounds and title fights should be seven four minute rounds.
  • 11-10-2013, 11:28 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    How does that explain Jake having twice as many submission victories as Georges?

    At top level competition?

    Shields is a position grappler who is intent on lying on top until a better position presents itself rather than working for damage. It's obvious that GSP is a ground and pounder rather than a "blanket". Shields is nowhere near the same grappler he was years ago and certainly not the same fighter that he was before his father's passing.

    Of course, Shields would beat GSP in submission grappling. But, we were not talking about ADCC, we were talking about MMA. GSP does not fit in the category of a blanket, in my opinion.
  • 11-09-2013, 08:47 PM
    K1NG P3NN
    His fights will never end.
  • 11-09-2013, 11:41 AM
    McGregor: I'd like no time limits, no rounds
    Connor McGregor has quickly made a name for himself amongst UFC featherweights, but more so with his comments outside the cage, although he is 2-0 since debuting in the UFC. McGregor is one of those guys that just loves to fight and loves to talk shit, but what he'd really like is to just fight man to man until one man breaks:

    UFC featherweight Conor McGregor would like to turn back the clock to the early days of the sport and eliminate rounds and time limits.

    “Me, personally, I’d love to scratch it all and do no time limit, not separation, no nothing. Let the contest go, and it’s over when it’s over,” said the Irishman during a recent question and answer session in Manchester, England.

    “People say, ‘we want a finish.’ Trust me, someone will break. No time, a man will break,” added the outspoken 25-year-old.
  • 11-08-2013, 04:32 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Sniggles View Post
    No! It was not. Try again sir.

    2000 words due next Tuesday. debate at its finest.
  • 11-08-2013, 04:15 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Sniggles View Post
    GSP does not blanket. If you think that GSP blankets, you seriously need to brush up on his past matches rather than relying on hearsay and jokers to form that opinion in your mind.

    Shields is a blanketer who lands pillowfists from the top while grappling only for position.

    GSP, on the other hand, utilizes every tool in his french army knife both on the ground and on the feet.
    Just wanted to say that I don't think that GSP is a blanketer, Definitely not comparing him to Jake Shields, lol. IMO GSP at times will grind a bit with his ground and pound, and he is so effective at it, the only thing that is going to get him off (short of the fight ending via submission/TKO) is the round ending. A fight with no rounds would benefit wrestlers in general (specifically ones with top-notch top games), IMHO.

    As i said above, GSP is so effective with his top game, it can seem like he is a "blanket" that his opponent just can't escape, but I'm definitely not saying that he is a blanket (lay and prey) fighter.
  • 11-06-2013, 11:32 AM
    Renato Verissimo
    He's not subbing Charuto.

    He's KO him, but definitely not subbing him.

    On a side note, I thought Charuto beat Hughes circa 2004.
  • 11-06-2013, 11:27 AM
    Jake was already a bonafide MONSTER grappling by 2006...less than a year away from his GJJ blackbelt, and had already kicked ass at the ADCC the year before, among the rest of his accolades. Georges wasn't as strong of a submission grappler at that point...if he can even be said to be as good as Jake was 6 years ago. Granted, he set up the Hughes sub with strikes, but I still think Jake had a great shot of finishing Matt at that point...particularly if he faced him in that period after Georges had taken the belt.

  • 11-06-2013, 11:13 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    I honestly do. In 2006, at least.

    I think Matts def was good enough and his strength helps in that.

    Jake is great but we all know it is harder to sub than to defend them
  • 11-06-2013, 11:12 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by SWIFTboy View Post
    I WISH the answer was Dan Hardy by kimura or armbomb.

    I think the answer is Frank Trigg by RNC. That was a huge win when it happened!
    Yes! And yes it was!

    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    I'm going to guess and say Steve Strasser.

    I'd also counter and say if Jake fought guys like Sherk, and Trigg, and Hardy and Hughes he'd have more than just 10 subs.

    I'm not saying Jake is a better fighter than Georges. I'm saying he doesn't blanket, and that he's a better submission grappler.

    I don't think he could get Hughes or Sherk to the ground. Probably sub Trigg, but I don't think he subs the other two. I see your point though.
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