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  • 12-13-2013, 12:55 PM
    CA_Gas Bag
    I think Werdum is fortunate to have the opportunities he's taken advantage of. His stock rose highly after beating Fedor, and I imagine his grappling school does well enough for him to see a bit of profit off of it. Combine that with commentating duties and he may be doing well enough for himself that he doesn't have to fight three or four times a year. I'd certainly worry about "cage rust " but if Velasquez takes his time healing his shoulder, then it probably wouldn't be much of an issue. If he takes a fight with the Barnett/Browne winner, he'll potentially have an edge in keeping his skills battle-ready. Few things, if any, can successfully duplicate the actual fight. I'd love to see him fight again sooner rather than later, but if he's able to wait and get a title shot I wouldn't blame him.

    Of course there's always potential for him to be injured, like Velasquez and countless others before him. That's what comes with it being such a physical sport though.
  • 12-13-2013, 12:37 PM
    ckauffman28
    if Werdum waits that puts him out for over a year, its no reason he cant fight someone else
  • 12-13-2013, 12:11 PM
    KevoOnTheRadio
    I got $5 that says it'll be for an interim title.
  • 12-13-2013, 12:02 PM
    Sakara=Excitement
    It looks like Werdum won't be waiting....as far a Dana is concerned

    Dana White: Fabricio Werdum will fight winner of UFC 168 bout Josh Barnett vs. Travis Browne
    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/12/1...-travis-browne

    As reported earlier today, UFC heavyweight champion Cain Velasquez is on the shelf for a while after undergoing the second shoulder surgery of his career. Fabricio Werdum was slated to face him and stated that he'd prefer to wait for the chance to fight for the title. UFC president Dana White appears to have other ideas.

    Speaking with Fox Sports following the UFC on Fox 9 pre-fight press conference, White said definitively that Werdum will be fighting before Cain returns:

    "I met with (Fabricio) Werdum yesterday or the day before - he's going to fight the winner of Travis Browne and Josh Barnett," UFC president Dana White told FOX Sports on Thursday. "Waiting is ridiculous."

    "I'm not interested in him waiting, he's going to fight. Because it gets to a point where it's been so long since he fought nobody gives a s—t. You start to disappear and nobody cares and they start talking about other heavyweights and it's like 'why is this guy getting a shot when he hasn't even fought?' so we're going to push him to fight."
  • 12-13-2013, 10:07 AM
    Fedorlei Gomipierre
    Best thing to happen to Cain is probably an extended time off to heal up.

    The most optimum time to beat Cain is when he's worn down and working through injuries, if I'm Werdum, I take the winner of Barnett/Browne and let some other poor sap take on a healthy-ish Cain and take nexties.
  • 12-13-2013, 07:20 AM
    Badluck33
    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    if he keeps the fight standing. If he takes it to the ground, he'll be sorry.


    I'll go ahead and disagree with two of the three. Cain doesn't have KO power. He's got great combinations and great handspeed. If he beats Werdum standing--the most likely of the three--it far more likely to be a TKO than a one-punch KO. But he's not going to hit Fabricio any harder than he's already been hit.

    I'd also say that Werdum's striking is underrated, and if Cain doesn't respect it, he may get caught. We'll see if Fabricio learned anything from the AO fight--he was beating an arguably better striker than Cain in the standup. The last I read, he was running his own school, so I have no idea who he'd bring to his camp/corner...but if Werdum has any kind of team behind him, they're going to tell him his [very underrated] judo is the only chance he's got to get the fight to the ground. The flopping bullshit isn't going to work, and he shouldn't bother shooting against Cain...he's only going to eat knees and hammers. Watch for Cain's combos, use length as much as he can, and look to throw if Velasquez initiates a clinch. Then own him on the ground.

    I think a healthy Velasquez wins 7 or 8 out of 10 fights against Werdum, provided he doesn't follow Fabricio to the mat. If he tries to show he's better everywhere--or if Fabricio catches lightning in a bottle and throws him-- Cain is more than likely going to get subbed.

    rh
    agreed but so is Cain's stand up. Cain is a risk taker with swinging hands. Thats how he got caught vs. JDS. I think he has learned from it tho and you won't see the same mistake twice.

    If they do fight, I dont see Werdum winning unless Cain gets injured during fight. I dont think Werdum can KO him. He can definitely sub him but i'll bet a pretty penny Cain won't have a problem with him if it goes to the ground.
  • 12-13-2013, 06:30 AM
    rivethead
    Quote Originally Posted by TBEAR View Post
    Cain toasts Werdum
    if he keeps the fight standing. If he takes it to the ground, he'll be sorry.

    Quote Originally Posted by ckauffman28 View Post
    shoulder surgery he should still be back in that time frame i think

    either way i see this fight ending in three ways:
    1- cain by ko
    2- Werdum by slick sub
    3- Werdum feeling Cain's ko power then spending the rest of the time flopping to the mat trying to get cain to go to the ground
    I'll go ahead and disagree with two of the three. Cain doesn't have KO power. He's got great combinations and great handspeed. If he beats Werdum standing--the most likely of the three--it far more likely to be a TKO than a one-punch KO. But he's not going to hit Fabricio any harder than he's already been hit.

    I'd also say that Werdum's striking is underrated, and if Cain doesn't respect it, he may get caught. We'll see if Fabricio learned anything from the AO fight--he was beating an arguably better striker than Cain in the standup. The last I read, he was running his own school, so I have no idea who he'd bring to his camp/corner...but if Werdum has any kind of team behind him, they're going to tell him his [very underrated] judo is the only chance he's got to get the fight to the ground. The flopping bullshit isn't going to work, and he shouldn't bother shooting against Cain...he's only going to eat knees and hammers. Watch for Cain's combos, use length as much as he can, and look to throw if Velasquez initiates a clinch. Then own him on the ground.

    I think a healthy Velasquez wins 7 or 8 out of 10 fights against Werdum, provided he doesn't follow Fabricio to the mat. If he tries to show he's better everywhere--or if Fabricio catches lightning in a bottle and throws him-- Cain is more than likely going to get subbed.

    rh
  • 12-12-2013, 10:05 PM
    1inthechamber
    Might as well wait. Its the only time he'll have the chance to flop on his back against a champion. I don't think he deserves a shot anyway but we've seen worse I guess.
  • 12-12-2013, 08:41 PM
    Cat--Smasher
    Fabricio Werdum willing to wait for Cain Velasquez

    "They told me it’s my decision," Werdum told MMAFighting.com. "I had a meeting with Dana White and my team, the UFC said it’s up to me, if I want to wait or fight again. I’m still thinking about it, but I believe I’m going to wait for this opportunity to fight for the title. I’m the next in line. But it’s not 100 percent yet."

    If he chooses to fight, Werdum could face the winner of Josh Barnett vs. Travis Browne, but he’s willing to wait for the champion.

    "I believe (Cain Velasquez) will return soon, probably around July or August," he said. "It’s normal to recover quickly today, so that’s what I hope. I’ll even send my physical therapist to help him get better. I’ll pay for his recovery (laughs).

    "I’ll make my final decision next week," he continued. "It’s an once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, something that I’ve been waiting for a long time. My biggest dream is to fight for the UFC title. I accomplished all my other dreams, becoming a world champion in jiu-jitsu and ADCC, and I still want the world title in MMA."
  • 11-09-2013, 11:08 PM
    Cat--Smasher
    http://www.mmaweekly.com/ufc-heavywe...-avoid-surgery
    UFC Heavyweight Champ Cain Velasquez Likely to Avoid Surgery
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