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  • 11-19-2013, 12:50 AM
    jmcpherson21
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. MMA View Post
    Glad you started a thread about this. I mentioned this in another thread. It is ridiculous that Dana mentioned this as probably every person in that room was scratching their head thinking "uhhh damage is not part of the criteria".

    Also if judging was what won fights, GSP would've lost his last 4 fights (including this one) where his face looked worse than the opponent's.
    Even using the damage argument can you actually imply that GSPs last 4 opponents did more damage than he did? All damage has to have visible proof? (4 before this one i should clarify)
  • 11-18-2013, 11:22 PM
    Dr. MMA
    Quote Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement View Post
    http://www.mmamania.com/2013/11/17/5...-wants-rematch

    Does anyone else find it odd that the most known face for MMA doesn't even know what the judging criteria is?
    Glad you started a thread about this. I mentioned this in another thread. It is ridiculous that Dana mentioned this as probably every person in that room was scratching their head thinking "uhhh damage is not part of the criteria".

    Also if judging was what won fights, GSP would've lost his last 4 fights (including this one) where his face looked worse than the opponent's.

    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    I've always found it odd that people give dana ANY credibility at all.

    But that's a good litmus test to see if I think their opinion is worthwhile, whenever I talk to new people about MMA.
    Even fighters give his judging too much credibility. I hate it when fighters say "even Dana White scored it my favour... blah blah". Dana lost all credibility for judging when he thought that Hendricks won round 5. No judge, website, fan or Yamasaki thought Hendricks won that round.
  • 11-18-2013, 06:37 PM
    grambino
    A record already held by Dana.
  • 11-18-2013, 11:18 AM
    dare777
    I re-watched the first round a few times. The Guillotine was deep and it really looked even in slow mo that Hendricks was ready to tap or in fact tapped a hair right after GSP let go if you watch it close. Maybe the judges gave that round to GSP because he had Hendricks in a bad spot. I thought Hendricks had won and even after re-watching it but not as much of a Travesty as I first thought. Damage cannot equal win otherwise anyone who shows blood will lose, and yet it may be one strike or well placed elbow. Damn that is a dumb ass statement by Dana White.
  • 11-18-2013, 10:52 AM
    FFFRpickup
    I agree as well. the final round I feel gsp dug deep. people just haven't see Gsp in a close fight in a long time. now to see it this close is an amazing accomplishment for johny. robbery no. in dana's eyes yes. if it was based on damage to ones face only than fair skinned fighters like homenick and gsp will loose every fight they fight. so BJ pen would be undefeated!
  • 11-18-2013, 10:19 AM
    W.Silva>C.Norris
    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleJack View Post

    I thought that fight could have gone either way (the same way I felt about the first BJ Penn fight) based on the scoring of the first round. It was close but Hendricks had every opportunity to sieze the title in the fifth and he didn't.
    Agreed 300% with this statement. I was screaming at the TV for Johnny to get something accomplished in the 5th, before it ended up costing him the fight. Yes, the first round is the controversial one right now, but had Hendricks won the 5th, it would be a moot point.
  • 11-18-2013, 09:21 AM
    SimpleJack
    It's odd to me that so many people, present company excluded for the most part, have so little respect for a guy who takes an ass-whipping and then comes back to control the fight and even win rounds. The same shit was spewed after the first BJ Penn fight and detractors cited the condition of GSP's face there as well.

    I thought that fight could have gone either way (the same way I felt about the first BJ Penn fight) based on the scoring of the first round. It was close but Hendricks had every opportunity to sieze the title in the fifth and he didn't.
  • 11-18-2013, 01:55 AM
    initial_zen
    People talking about damage remind me of the people who said Brett Rogers was beating Fedor in round one of their fight.
  • 11-18-2013, 01:10 AM
    IceCold48
    Quote Originally Posted by MMA4EVERRR View Post
    GSP has been in A LOT of battle tested fights. He has taken some shots here and there to his face, and that must definitely weakened his scar tissue to this face. Might not take much to cut his face at this point. Hendricks has not fought as much as GSP, his face has not gone through the battles that GSP has, nor has he fought the strikers that GSP has over the years.

    Take JDS for instance. His face was abused by Cain for 10 rounds. His scar tissue is easily not as it once was. If he were to fight someone and JDS just completely outstruck his opponent, and took a few measly shots to the face, which opened up some cuts...would anyone still give the fight to his opponent based on damage?
    I agree, people bleed more than others and bruise more than others.that should have no impact on the outcome of the fight.

    Also, it seems like Dana is trying to break the record for most times sounding like a jackass in a 24 hour span.
  • 11-17-2013, 09:45 PM
    Sniggles
    100 pitter patter shots < 80 far more powerful shots

    A insignificant cut or a nosebleed should not sway a fight in the favor of another, but when you have a champion get busted up while the challenger looks like he simply went for a 25 minute jog... There needs to be a different way of scoring Effective Striking rather than enumeration of strikes. I have said for 3 years that the judging criteria and the rules need to be revamped.

    I have long admired and respected GSP, but he lost that fight in my eyes.
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