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  • 12-19-2013, 04:38 PM
    Fedorlei Gomipierre
    Yikes lol.

    I keep seeing the same images in my head when I think of Cain/Jones, and it involved Cain utterly ghosting Jones.

    With Cain coming off a hiatus where he'll be able to mend a lot of his nagging injuries and be relatively healthy for the next year and given his utterly relentless pace, I think he'd set a record for most strikes landed in an ungodly stomping of Jones.....

    Now if Jones and his handlers are smart, they wait about a year or two or so, let Cain accumulate a few more camps and a lot more wear and tear and THEN challenge him for the title. I think Jones beats Cain in around early 2016, because I don't think Cain's body is going to hold up much longer, especially with the training he does and the camps he goes through. Those AKA guys take a fuck-tonne of damage and from the Brock fight forward, Cain has really been the walking wounded.
  • 12-19-2013, 04:01 PM
    Cat--Smasher
    UFC Champ Cain Velasquez: 'Bones' Should Beef Up for Superfight
    We carefully approached Velasquez at LAX yesterday afternoon ... and he said Bones -- the reigning light heavyweight champ -- at 6'4' has what it takes to move up a class.

    Cain said, "I think he has the body for it too ... he's tall so he can put on that weight."
  • 11-30-2013, 06:47 PM
    Dr. MMA
    Quote Originally Posted by grambino View Post
    I don't believe he's top 10 in the HW division. He may be relevant for discussion sake, but not legitimate.
    That's one of the reasons, I think Jones should be very interested in fighting Cormier. That's a true testament to see if he's ready for the upper echelon of the HW division. If he were to beat Cormier convincingly, many would think he could dethrone Cain (not me )
  • 11-30-2013, 04:19 PM
    grambino
    I don't believe he's top 10 in the HW division. He may be relevant for discussion sake, but not legitimate.
  • 11-30-2013, 04:15 PM
    Dr. MMA
    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    the attraction is the belief that the odds will change once the fight becomes more secure. they're betting to get in early. I would imagine that the odds will sway even more in Cain's favor if the bout is ever announced.
    I'm not so sure about that. Given how dominant Cain was against a killer like JDS and how Jones' was at his most vulnerable point in his fight against Gustafsson in their last fights, the odds came out as they did. If Jones looks dominant in his next fight, the odds will start to shrink. It's just a case of how oddsmakers take advantage of most MMA fan's selective [and most recent] memory.
  • 11-30-2013, 08:39 AM
    rivethead
    Quote Originally Posted by Sniggles View Post
    What kind of person bets on a fight that has not been booked?

    I got 1,000 on Anderson Silva for Silva vs. GSP.
    the attraction is the belief that the odds will change once the fight becomes more secure. they're betting to get in early. I would imagine that the odds will sway even more in Cain's favor if the bout is ever announced.

    And if you think betting on a fight without a bout agreement is bad, I know degenerates who will bet on how much the odds will change between the opening line and the time of the fight...some without even the remotest care of who wins the bout.

    rh
  • 11-29-2013, 09:28 PM
    lwbrewer
    a betting addict would bet There was one grandfather found a bookie that took a bet his grandson would make the Olympic team, and took 16 years and he collected.
  • 11-29-2013, 08:51 PM
    Sniggles
    What kind of person bets on a fight that has not been booked?

    I got 1,000 on Anderson Silva for Silva vs. GSP.
  • 11-29-2013, 05:45 PM
    Cat--Smasher
    Velasquez opens as big favorite over Jones in potential superfight
    http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news...al-superfight/
    As of today at overseas betting site "BetOnline.ag," Velasquez has opened as a (-275) favorite against Jones, who in turn gets the "underdog" rate of (+215). Simply put, for every $275 wagered on the heavyweight champ, you would earn $100. While a $100 bet on "Bones" would pocket you an extra $215.
  • 11-25-2013, 02:58 PM
    SimpleJack
    Was Dana worried about putting DC vs Gus? Or was it DC saying he wouldnt fly to Sweden and would only fight in the United States. 0 fights at LHW ever = irrelevant when talking about the Champion and who he still needs to fight.

    And no, its not the same as chael getting a shot (not directing this at you, im saying this in general before someone comes in and says it)
    I'll say it once again, when he's being moved directly into a fight with a top 5 guy that makes him immediately relevant. When Jones himself talks about him repeatedly, that makes him relevant. When you have a guy who has defeated 2 former heavyweight champions and has the wrestling accolades he has, he's relevant at any weight class where he decides to fight.

    Calling him undeserving of an immediate title fight is proper. Calling him irrelevant is not because clearly the UFC, nearly every expert, and even Jones see him as being noteworthy whether Jones admits it or not.
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