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  • 03-15-2014, 04:34 PM
    Twist of Lemon
    Quote Originally Posted by Rise View Post
    There have been numerous accounts of guys collapsing back stage or in their hotel rooms prior to weigh ins. As well as the brazilian fighter that died a few months back just before getting on the scales. There are links to low testosterone and prolonged careers of weight cutting as well.

    It's also happened in other sports where athletes haven't properly re hydrated themselves and had seizures as a result. There are definite links to weight cutting and re hydrating and how the brain is slower to recover from the weight cut then the rest of the body making someone more prone to be knocked out (as well as suffering concussions)

    There are lots of examples out there of the risks of weight cutting if you look for them.
    A lot of those issues are from cutting water weight to the point where you can't sweat any more, causing some not cool kidney issues. Pair that with the wrong low calorie diet leading up to the fight and long term issues are bound to come up, including low testosterone.

    However, as posted before, those methods are simply being passed by as weight cutting evolves. There's a reason why North American fighters rarely have weight cut issues. It's hardly the athletics commissions place to monitor and restrict weight cutting. That's on the fighter to take care of themselves and cut weight the right way.
  • 03-15-2014, 01:45 PM
    Y2JUBAE
    I can't call any fight Lawler wins an upset. He's experienced, has ko power.
  • 03-15-2014, 12:55 PM
    Rise
    Quote Originally Posted by Twist of Lemon View Post
    Considering Hendricks usually makes weight no problem, don't you feel that "killing themselves to have an edge" is just a bit of a hyperbole? Can you list fighters who retired and have documented health problems from weight cutting in MMA?
    There have been numerous accounts of guys collapsing back stage or in their hotel rooms prior to weigh ins. As well as the brazilian fighter that died a few months back just before getting on the scales. There are links to low testosterone and prolonged careers of weight cutting as well.

    It's also happened in other sports where athletes haven't properly re hydrated themselves and had seizures as a result. There are definite links to weight cutting and re hydrating and how the brain is slower to recover from the weight cut then the rest of the body making someone more prone to be knocked out (as well as suffering concussions)

    There are lots of examples out there of the risks of weight cutting if you look for them.
  • 03-15-2014, 12:55 PM
    Twist of Lemon
    Quote Originally Posted by AnchorPunch View Post
    It's a fair point but I worry about the long term effects on the endocrine system. I also, perhaps selfishly, just don't enjoy that aspect of the sport. I hate when someone might have a bad performance due to a cut; it robs us of a better fight IMO.
    It is, but it the whole weight cut thing on this forum lately just seems like it's a case of trying to be over officious. The only reason we're even talking about this is because a scale broke. It's not like Hendricks usually has to strain himself to this length to make weight. The amount of Anthony Johnson-esque weight cutters in MMA isn't really all that high.

    I also get the feeling that people think the only way to cut weight is through method's like the sauna, when really, the sauna is only small part of the process these days and has been increasingly less popular since the NCAA banned it. Excessive dehydration is considered archaic in the NCAA, by the time most of the people in the UFC went to Universities, they were teaching much safer weight cutting. Eating a certain way, working out the way these guys do with 3 month long camps to cut weight... it's much different than sitting in a sauna with a plastic suit on, riding a bike.
  • 03-15-2014, 11:30 AM
    cosmicsunn
    damn, myles jury looks scared. pulling for him to win though.
  • 03-15-2014, 10:21 AM
    AnchorPunch
    Quote Originally Posted by Twist of Lemon View Post
    Considering Hendricks usually makes weight no problem, don't you feel that "killing themselves to have an edge" is just a bit of a hyperbole? Can you list fighters who retired and have documented health problems from weight cutting in MMA?
    It's a fair point but I worry about the long term effects on the endocrine system. I also, perhaps selfishly, just don't enjoy that aspect of the sport. I hate when someone might have a bad performance due to a cut; it robs us of a better fight IMO.
  • 03-15-2014, 10:12 AM
    Twist of Lemon
    Quote Originally Posted by joeodd2 View Post
    These guys are killing themselves just to have an edge.....but everyone talks about the dangers of PEDs and TRT. More and more fighters will have serious health problems because of this weight cut culture. I guess it's going to take a major star having a stroke or something before people wake up...
    Considering Hendricks usually makes weight no problem, don't you feel that "killing themselves to have an edge" is just a bit of a hyperbole? Can you list fighters who retired and have documented health problems from weight cutting in MMA?
  • 03-15-2014, 08:19 AM
    lwbrewer
    They need to do like Ohio does weight in again the day of the fight. This doesn't fix but lessen it only. It would shake up the weight class's at first, but that would fade with time.
  • 03-15-2014, 06:11 AM
    joeodd2
    These guys are killing themselves just to have an edge.....but everyone talks about the dangers of PEDs and TRT. More and more fighters will have serious health problems because of this weight cut culture. I guess it's going to take a major star having a stroke or something before people wake up...
  • 03-15-2014, 04:46 AM
    Tongan.Death.Grip
    Sheilds looked normal.

    Diaz was brilliant.
    He had a camera crew on him ffs. UFC hype machine two steps ahead of the game..?

    Hendricks in the Dallas Buyers club?
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