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  • 03-21-2014, 02:11 PM
    Sniggles
    HGH and EPO cannot be seen in a person's physical appearance. These are the two most abused substances as Nevada testing is in the stone age.
  • 03-20-2014, 10:27 PM
    IceCold48
    Quote Originally Posted by joeodd2 View Post
    Some people really think they can tell who's juicing just by their physique......I guess those people must have knew Josh Barnett was Juicing.....because my God.....that guy....Mr. Universe didn't have shit on him....
    What people are you talking about?
  • 03-20-2014, 08:45 PM
    joeodd2
    Some people really think they can tell who's juicing just by their physique......I guess those people must have knew Josh Barnett was Juicing.....because my God.....that guy....Mr. Universe didn't have shit on him....
  • 03-20-2014, 12:20 PM
    hass
    Quote Originally Posted by IceCold48 View Post
    You guys are misinterpretting what I was trying to say. It is not like Overeem or Vitor where from a physical stand up he looks to be on them. There is nothing about GSP that to me says ohhh test him now he's definitely a juicer.
    I get what you're saying. From looks alone, some people look like they're juicing and others don't; although, it's not a definitive statement proclaiming accuracy or certainty. Belfort, Overeem, the Roc Don Murraco, Scott Steiner, Mark McGuire, just about any bodybuilder, have an appearance where it would not be surprising if you found out they were on the juice. Then there's guys like Josh Barnett, Roger Clemens, (lots of MLB pitchers have been accused of juicing but give off no apperance), or Chris Leben who wouldn't necessarily be expected by look.

    Nothing certain about look, just a possibility or conversation piece. And let's face it, when you're talking about guys at your local gym, they're whole point in roiding is mainly to look big, shredded, ripped - they don't play sports where endurance or purely strength is the goal. So sometimes there can be a relationship between roids and looks as for some that's the goal of taking them. For a sports player who has to undergo testing, that can actually be an unwanted side-effect due to the accusations that come with those veins and gains.
  • 03-19-2014, 09:04 PM
    IceCold48
    Quote Originally Posted by mulefloyd View Post
    Josh Barnett. There goes the whole "look" test.
    You guys are misinterpretting what I was trying to say. It is not like Overeem or Vitor where from a physical stand up he looks to be on them. There is nothing about GSP that to me says ohhh test him now he's definitely a juicer.
  • 03-19-2014, 08:04 PM
    rivethead
    WADA is a type of test, not a testing agent. VADA is a testing agent that employs WADA methodology.

    In essence, Johny was saying he doesn't want a Kleenex, he wants a facial tissue.



    The issue for me is that Georges oversold the whole thing. He'd established a financial relationship with VADA, which immediately becomes dubious. For a guy who gets paid several million dollars per fight, [above and beyond "'is passeeve income" ] he made a crap choice. He should have paid for the testing like anyone else, and downplayed any relationship he may have had. Hendricks woudn't have had a leg to stand on.

    For that matter, if I were Georges, I'd do the most accurate testing available from 3 different labs on a weekly basis through camp and leading up to the fight. The cost isn't going to kill him, and the credibility he'd gain--effectively silencing any nagging critics--would be worth it. He'd also set the bar for anyone moving forward.

    rh
  • 03-19-2014, 07:19 PM
    rahdeezy
    Quote Originally Posted by Qball1974 View Post
    It's the same testing dude lol
    Enlighten me.
  • 03-19-2014, 07:15 PM
    Qball1974
    Quote Originally Posted by rahdeezy View Post
    because it's not the toughest test out there and it is unofficial. Regardless of what would have happened with the VADA testing, the results would have had no bearing on his fight with Johny at all. Johny wanted the toughest test, which is WADA, but GSP didn't want that.
    It's the same testing dude lol
  • 03-19-2014, 06:24 PM
    mulefloyd
    Josh Barnett. There goes the whole "look" test.
  • 03-19-2014, 05:39 PM
    IceCold48
    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    That was actually a joke.

    Certainly he could be juicing, but I actually doubt it. I certainly don't know.


    Please. Enough with the "he's got that look" bullshit. While I doubt Georges is juicing, I think anyone who thinks they can tell if someone is juicing or not is an idiot. Certainly, some people who don't use intelligently get visible side effects. I can't imagine someone of GSP's caliber buying his shit from some dood at the local World Gym or using it to such a level that gynocomatia develops. This is a guy who hired a team to break down Penn's thoracic cavity...if he was going to juice, you wouldn't be able to tell by looking at him.

    rh
    I wasn't saying that he doesn't do steroids because he doesn't have the look, just pointing out that from a physial stand point I don't think he gives off any indications of juicing.
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