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  • 05-11-2014, 12:59 PM
    IceCold48
    Quote Originally Posted by Y2JUBAE View Post
    Nobody else has even been able to stand with Pettis. His only recent loss was from a grinder, which I do not even consider to be a mma loss. Grinder loss maybe.
    The refs should not have allowed that fight to stay on the ground so long. I don't think Guida at any point of the fight had the slightest intentions of trying to finish or even do damage.
  • 05-11-2014, 12:28 PM
    Y2JUBAE
    Nobody else has even been able to stand with Pettis. His only recent loss was from a grinder, which I do not even consider to be a mma loss. Grinder loss maybe.
  • 05-09-2014, 07:07 AM
    rivethead
    Pettis isn't a world-class grappler. He's good. Not great. Certainly, he can catch Gil if Melendez underestimates him, but in a submission grappling match, Gil wins 10 out of 10. Hell, Bendo wins 10 out of 10 in a pure submission grappling match.

    rh
  • 05-09-2014, 01:18 AM
    SimpleJack
    Not that I disagree.

    I was simply stating the at it wasn't like Pettis was somehow ever a threat that night off his back.
  • 05-09-2014, 01:12 AM
    IceCold48
    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleJack View Post
    Pettis had all of one sub attempt vs guida.
    Yeah he really didn't have any space to do anything he literally dry humped him and shouldered him. Gave him no room to do anything it was such bullshit. What a shitty way to fight. I'm one of the first to get pissed off at people who cry about guys holding guys down but damn that was awful.
  • 05-09-2014, 01:06 AM
    kalebarker
    The way I remember it is Pettis wasn't constantly looking for subs, always throwing up his legs for armbar or triangle or attacking Guida's arm for kimuras. Guida didn't really do anything except avoid Pettis' offense and not landing anything other than a few shoulder strikes on the ground. I thought Guida won given the way MMA is judged but would have lost if MMA fights were judged properly.
  • 05-09-2014, 12:09 AM
    SimpleJack
    Nice.

    I say a ton of dumb shit on here and have only been negged like twice and probably deservedly so. That being said, pointing out that Pettis had one sub attempt in that fight isn't really all that controversial. It's simply a recorded stat.

    Pettis gave up 5 takedowns that night and did very little to avoid losing every round of that fight. Love or hate it, he lost cleanly and unanimously.

    And for the record, wrist control is a defensive move and does not equate to a sub attempt or even a "scoring" maneuver. When was the last time you saw two guys go at it and say, "wow, he was on his back but boy did he control the fuck out of that guys wrists!"
  • 05-08-2014, 10:21 PM
    kalebarker
    Wow. I am going to have to rewatch it.
  • 05-08-2014, 10:05 PM
    SimpleJack
    Pettis had all of one sub attempt vs guida.
  • 05-08-2014, 07:55 PM
    kalebarker
    Even guida was constantly defending subs. Pettis' ability to apply his bjj to mma is better than a lot of black belts we have seen in the cage.
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