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  • 07-05-2014, 11:46 AM
    Rise
    Quote Originally Posted by BonesKnows View Post
    The way TJ and Ludwig have been parading around together since he won the title makes me think his time with Alpha Male is numbered - aka until Bang actually opens his gym. Faber told Ariel hes still at Alpha Male for a few more months until the location he picked to open the gym was finished.

    He also said it wouldnt bug him if Bang cornered TJ during a hypothetical bout against him (faber)
    TJ has been pretty vocal about wanting to split his time between Ludwig and Alpha Male. Pretty much said while prepping for a fight he'd train with Ludwig and the rest of his time is at Alpha Male.

    Asuncao really should be getting the next shot with proper hype he'd probably wouldn't draw much worse then Barao who is not a draw at all. Could easily sell the fight as the new champ against the guy who holds a win over him.
  • 07-04-2014, 08:02 PM
    BonesKnows
    The way TJ and Ludwig have been parading around together since he won the title makes me think his time with Alpha Male is numbered - aka until Bang actually opens his gym. Faber told Ariel hes still at Alpha Male for a few more months until the location he picked to open the gym was finished.

    He also said it wouldnt bug him if Bang cornered TJ during a hypothetical bout against him (faber)
  • 07-04-2014, 04:43 PM
    AnchorPunch
    Normally I agree with you, FG, but not on this...

    I think Faber has been pretty clear that he won't fight TJ. That fight wouldn't just disrupt friendships, it would put his gym composition in peril. Unless TJ leaves first to work 100% with Bang, I don't see this ever happening, regardless of the payday.

    And, while I agree that Asuncao isn't a draw, I think the Barao/TJ fight does better after they have a fight or two to show off Barao. Right now, it's just a repeat of a main event that people just saw and were only mildly interested in the first place. Give it a fight or two and TJ will have more notoriety to build it as a clash of the two best in the division. Not only am I bummed that they booked the rematch, but I think it sells terribly.
  • 07-04-2014, 05:30 AM
    Fedorlei Gomipierre
    I think the UFC is really cautious in who they're booking in PPV main events for these lower weightclasses and outside of Faber, I don't think they want to risk a low buyrate with a main event against Assuncao, who while probably deserving, isn't a money fight and he isn't anything close to a developed name. Not to say Barao is a draw but he's a lot more sellable than Assuncao at the moment.

    Mizugaki is rumoured to be penciled in as the opponent for Cruz's return bout and they don't want to throw Cruz in such deep waters like a five round fight although the Alpha Male storyline for a TJ/Cruz bout is there.

    The only other matchup I could see working better than Barao would be Faber, which would be a major money fight with a huge backstory but there are loads of hurdles to jump through before they match those two teammates up but from the way Faber has spoken about the possibility, I wouldn't be shocked if they make the money right and book a Faber/TJ fight waaaaaay down the line.
  • 07-04-2014, 05:08 AM
    initial_zen
    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    If Barao doesn't grant Dilleshaw an immediate rubber match after beating him, this will be even more offensive.

    rh
    For real. This fight would be so much better a fight or two down the road. At least then Borao would have a chance to dominate someone and remind us he is a badass. Meanwhile TJ can defend the belt once or twice and look like a legit champ. As it is, this fight seems pointless and if Borao wins, then what? A rubber match sounds atrocious at that point, but it looks like utter bs if they don't give one to TJ.
  • 07-04-2014, 03:33 AM
    kalebarker
    Quote Originally Posted by HillbillyDeluxe View Post
    and Kale you gave Barao a round? I dont see it but wont argue the fact, in my eyes I watched pure domination. I was however pretty much just jumping up and down excited as shit because going into the fight I thought Dillashaw had a helluva fight on his hands and he performed above and beyond my expectations. Great performance..
    I gave all five to TJ, but I thought the second one was close enough that it wasn't a terrible judging to give it Renan. I also thought the first first minutes of the first round was competitive up until the knock down. The rest was domination.
  • 07-04-2014, 03:26 AM
    HillbillyDeluxe
    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    If Barao doesn't grant Dilleshaw an immediate rubber match after beating him, this will be even more offensive.

    rh
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. MMA View Post
    This fight really doesn't make much sense at all. TJ dominated Barao every minute of that fight, and to put the icing on the cake, finished him off in the 5th. There are few performances, if any, at that high level, that stands out as much as TJ's. If Barao won one or two fights versus other top contenders in amazing fashion, then people would be interested in seeing this more. It's hard to sell it after how Barao looked. After fights like GSP-Serra or Weidman-Silva, people thought they were flukes as the fight was short and was a result of a "lucky punch", but no one was calling fluke on this one.

    The best we could do to build interest around this fight is that we have to play up the "bad camp", "bad weight-cut" and "wasn't the same for the remainder of the fight after the big punch in the 1st round".

    This is not to say Barao can't win, but a lot of us aren't convinced which hurts the interest for the fight.
    all of this sums everything up how I feel about this rematch.. Dont like it at all, the fight was NOT CLOSE. TJ Dominated..

    and Kale you gave Barao a round? I dont see it but wont argue the fact, in my eyes I watched pure domination. I was however pretty much just jumping up and down excited as shit because going into the fight I thought Dillashaw had a helluva fight on his hands and he performed above and beyond my expectations. Great performance..
  • 07-04-2014, 02:24 AM
    kalebarker
    Am I the only one that thought the second round was close. I didn't think the one judge giving it to Barao was a terrible call.

    Quote Originally Posted by KevoOnTheRadio View Post
    Who is supposed to be next in line?
    The guy that would have fought Barao if he wasn't an injured, Assuncao
  • 07-04-2014, 01:31 AM
    rivethead
    Quote Originally Posted by Fe1 View Post
    No. Just no. This immediate rematch talk is absolute bullshit. If we go for an immediate trilogy I'm going to fucking lose it.
    I'm not in favor of Barao getting this fight. Not at all.

    That being said, I think he wins this one, and that sucks. If he does, I think Dilleshaw should be rewarded for giving him an utterly undeserved rematch.

    rh
  • 07-04-2014, 12:57 AM
    Dr. MMA
    This fight really doesn't make much sense at all. TJ dominated Barao every minute of that fight, and to put the icing on the cake, finished him off in the 5th. There are few performances, if any, at that high level, that stands out as much as TJ's. If Barao won one or two fights versus other top contenders in amazing fashion, then people would be interested in seeing this more. It's hard to sell it after how Barao looked. After fights like GSP-Serra or Weidman-Silva, people thought they were flukes as the fight was short and was a result of a "lucky punch", but no one was calling fluke on this one.

    The best we could do to build interest around this fight is that we have to play up the "bad camp", "bad weight-cut" and "wasn't the same for the remainder of the fight after the big punch in the 1st round".

    This is not to say Barao can't win, but a lot of us aren't convinced which hurts the interest for the fight.
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