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  • 07-17-2006, 03:58 AM
    ArMnHC
    Quote Originally Posted by killerinstinct
    Vitor wasn't in that fight completely ever since what happned to his sister he's never been that into fights.Vitor was dominating Tito untill he gassed and that fight still could've went either way on the score cards.(I agree with the descion though)He beat Tanner a guy who should've been fighting at 185 and never gave him a rematch. His manager was Dana White when he was champ and he never fought the TOP competition.He fought some good fighters ,but never the best at the time.Wtf did Elvis Sinocic do to get a title shot?
    I have to agree with you about Sinosic not deserving a title shot. i don't know why the UFC still keeps him around...except to get his ass kicked by younger guys. he has a losing record...so eventually the UFC is gunna have to get a new 205 gatekeeper, because beating someone like him doesn't make people look better anymore...
  • 07-17-2006, 03:40 AM
    killerinstinct
    Quote Originally Posted by ArMnHC
    Vitor, out of his prime at 26 years old? HARDLY! Vitor is not out of his prime, he just lacks the heart it takes to be a serious contender. I just watched that fight between Tito and Vitor, and Tito said "if Vitor gets into trouble in the first round, he is out of the fight." Tito was right on target there. It's why he lost to Chuck, why he lost to Randy (twice), and why he ultimately lost to Tito. he also gassed against Tito, which also has to do with heart...because he didn't put in enough heart into his training to be physically prepared for someone who trains and goes as hard as Tito does.

    And you must also be saying that Evan Tanner is not a viable contender then also right???
    Vitor wasn't in that fight completely ever since what happned to his sister he's never been that into fights.Vitor was dominating Tito untill he gassed and that fight still could've went either way on the score cards.(I agree with the descion though)He beat Tanner a guy who should've been fighting at 185 and never gave him a rematch. His manager was Dana White when he was champ and he never fought the TOP competition.He fought some good fighters ,but never the best at the time.Wtf did Elvis Sinocic do to get a title shot?
  • 07-17-2006, 03:36 AM
    Afro
    Quote Originally Posted by AJL416AZ
    yeah pretty much. Tito is famous for his charisma, not actual talent. the only real talent he's beaten was Vitor way out of his prime, and laying on top of Silva. against Randy, Chuck, and Frank, he just got toyed with and dominated
    your pretty much right

    Tanner and Silva is about it
  • 07-17-2006, 03:30 AM
    ArMnHC
    Quote Originally Posted by AJL416AZ
    yeah pretty much. Tito is famous for his charisma, not actual talent. the only real talent he's beaten was Vitor way out of his prime, and laying on top of Silva. against Randy, Chuck, and Frank, he just got toyed with and dominated
    Vitor, out of his prime at 26 years old? HARDLY! Vitor is not out of his prime, he just lacks the heart it takes to be a serious contender. I just watched that fight between Tito and Vitor, and Tito said "if Vitor gets into trouble in the first round, he is out of the fight." Tito was right on target there. It's why he lost to Chuck, why he lost to Randy (twice), and why he ultimately lost to Tito. he also gassed against Tito, which also has to do with heart...because he didn't put in enough heart into his training to be physically prepared for someone who trains and goes as hard as Tito does.

    And you must also be saying that Evan Tanner is not a viable contender then also right???
  • 07-17-2006, 03:16 AM
    killerinstinct
    Quote Originally Posted by AJL416AZ

    all the Gracie's. too arrogant about too little, definitely too late.
    Without the Gracie's there wouldn't be mma.
  • 07-17-2006, 02:58 AM
    AJL416AZ
    yeah pretty much. Tito is famous for his charisma, not actual talent. the only real talent he's beaten was Vitor way out of his prime, and laying on top of Silva. against Randy, Chuck, and Frank, he just got toyed with and dominated
  • 07-17-2006, 02:50 AM
    Afro
    Quote Originally Posted by AJL416AZ
    TITO. fucking joke. IF YOU FIGHT TITO ORTIZ YOU LOSE. unless you're a talented contender, not a fucking TUF kid or a washout.

    Diego Sanchez. i guess piggyback rides make you undefeated.
    in fact, add Alessio to losing to that jackass

    Vera. talented, but retarded. call chuck out when you drop weight to LHW.

    all the Gracie's. too arrogant about too little, definitely too late.
    confused by your first what

    you tryna say that Tito cant beat anyone good and thats why you dont like him?
  • 07-17-2006, 02:38 AM
    AJL416AZ
    TITO. fucking joke. IF YOU FIGHT TITO ORTIZ YOU LOSE. unless you're a talented contender, not a fucking TUF kid or a washout.

    Diego Sanchez. i guess piggyback rides make you undefeated.
    in fact, add Alessio to losing to that jackass

    Vera. talented, but retarded. call chuck out when you drop weight to LHW.

    all the Gracie's. too arrogant about too little, definitely too late.
  • 07-17-2006, 02:24 AM
    supermark21
    tim sylvia- after beating gan mcgee he called out fedor. hes retarded
    marvin eastman- worlds first actual glass jaw
    nick diaz- won one decent match and sucked since
    tank- get in shape
    vitor- lost me $100 when he lost to tito.
  • 07-16-2006, 10:44 AM
    Ubermensch
    1) Diego Sanches (He 's good but things he is so much better than he is)
    2) Phil Baroni (What a total Head)
    3) Mark Coleman (How about thoes Roids)
    4) Kimo (Arrogant Jackoff)
    5) Jeff Monson (Hey you hang out with Mark Coleman??)
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