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  • 07-15-2006, 06:46 PM
    Nah I'm sure I make a face like that every time I sneeze.

    Bottom line Ken was in real danger. Herb made a fricking brave decision but the right decision in hindsight.

    As I'm sure has been mentioned the problem with this fight was it was hyped to the hills & stopped early after the first real combination. But like I said better too early than too late, ALWAYS!

    I'm just getting a bit sick of Ken's crybaby attitude.
  • 07-15-2006, 05:17 PM
    As much as I agree with the stoppage, I think that pictures actually can lie. For example, that could just be a grimmace/blink from the impact. You can't conclude from a still that he is finished imo.

    Of course, you -can- conclude from the video that he is finished. (lol)

  • 07-15-2006, 05:08 PM
    Take a look at this still capture of Ken's face right after he took the first elbow just before Tito let loose with a barrage of a bunch more:

    You can clearly see in the close-up in the top corner that Ken was finished and Tito was about to get real serious...and a defenseless Ken was about to get hurt real bad.

    Pictures don't lie...Herb obviously made a great call by stopping it quick.
  • 07-15-2006, 04:07 PM
    What exactly did Tito say about his Knee after the Griffin fight?? I don't think he said it (ACL/ICL) was torn, I could be wrong......but even so, there are different degree's of tears
  • 07-15-2006, 01:25 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by sempaiman
    Ken is trying to milk a third fight out of this. He knows he can't beat Tito, so if fight gets stopped and he acts as if he is not hurt, he can now badmouth Tito and the referee.
    Yes, or if no 3rd fight comes his way then at least he can retire with a 'controversial' loss...

    it's almost as if it was in his interests not to defend the gnp

  • 07-15-2006, 12:43 PM
    You are wondering about what...that Tito punked Ken into thinking he was not OK so that Ken would think he already had the fight won and didn't need to worry much or train very hard?

    Dude please...get freakin'serious.

    Tito just had plenty of time to heal and train enough to there is no big mystery there.

    That's why the fighters have medical give fighters sufficient time to heal and still have enough time to properly prepare and train for a fight...and the fights are spaced far enough apart for this by the Nevada Athletic Commission.

    And I don't blame Tito for maybe trying to get out of that was obviously going to be a total squash beating up old washed-up punch-drunk Slamcock was going to do absolutely nothing for his career but cause more drama and bad PR.
  • 07-15-2006, 10:36 AM
    Herb made the right call. End of story.
  • 07-15-2006, 10:23 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by killerinstinct
    or maybe it was Tito looking for a way out of this fight?
    Out of the Shamrock fight?

    With the genuine hatred Tito has for Ken I'd think he'd take it with a broken arm.

    IMO Tito only brought up the injury to make an excuse for the tight match with Forrest, but he thought that the Shamrock fight would be postponed until he was100%. When they gave the fight to Forrest, he was having none of it & as I said injured of not he was the one to send Shamrocks ass into retirement.
  • 07-15-2006, 10:10 AM
    or maybe it was Tito looking for a way out of this fight?
  • 07-15-2006, 10:06 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by crh25
    There is ONE thing that everyone seems to be forgetting. Didn't Tito say a month or two before the fight that he was hurt? And Forrest was supposed to be fighting Ken? Then in the post fight interview he never mentions being hurt. In fact he claims he had no injuries whatsoever during training or anytime leading up to the fight. Just wondering about that. Doesn't that make all of yall wonder?
    That is something that bothered me. Tito was going on that his ACL & ICL was bust before the Forrest fight which is why he wasn't as dominating as we'd thought he'd be.

    Unless he's a superfast healer I didn't see any of that when he was bouncing around before the bell against Ken. I can't remember if he bounced before the Griffin fight, but if you've got a bust ACL, believe me you ain't bouncing!!

    Maybe it was just his "headgames".
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