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  • 08-09-2006, 10:50 AM
    stalker
    supermark21?
    xyience any good for injuries?
    you say you worked at gnc for 9 months.
    i use coffe for a eye opener in the morning and by the time i drop into my computer chair i need to go to the e.r. i find sleep is still the best.painful but the best.

    back to coleman:
    coleman just looks like the early arnold mags of the early 1970`s.
    against frye he looked like he lived in the weight room-
    i`m not anti performance enhancing drugs.its the test should be for both: fighters and to clear the air not for medical trials like in arnold years.
    who thinks theres still a chance tumors will be growing out of arnolds and chucks neck and balls and who should be blamed? test the hold fight card and clear the air.
  • 08-05-2006, 05:49 PM
    supermark21
    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin
    Absolutely. I gotta say it makes me laugh that the UFC promotes Xyience & yet everyone is so anti performance enhancing drugs.

    I've no idea what is in Xyience, but it is a performance enhancer & to me there is a very fine line between legal & illegal substances.

    For example during the Salt Lake winter olympic games of 2002 there was a Scottish downhill skier who won a gold medal & became a national hero cos it was Scotlands first ever skiing gold medal at any olympics.

    A few days later he was stripped of his medal cos they found illegal substances in his urine sample. It turns out that he had a cold & in the UK was given some Vicks as it had passed all the necessary Olympic drug tests. He had run out & bought some more at a drugstore in Salt Lake. Turns out that the US version of Vicks was not the same as the UK & contained an illegal substance.

    So there you have it an Olympic champion is thrown out in disgrace & had his dream shattered over.......a stick of Vicks inhaler.

    Maybe I'm too sceptical, but Xyience have a natural (?) growth factor suppliment, a Xtreme testosterone suppliment, a xtreme sex (?!?!) suppliment etc, just seems a bit dodgey to me.
    the xyience marketing is just like every other sports supplement company. they market in a way that makes their product sound like steroids in order to make people think they will work the same way. in most cases its just some root of tribulus plant. i worked at gnc for 9 months and i cant tell you how much bullshit there is in that place
  • 08-05-2006, 05:45 PM
    supermark21
    Quote Originally Posted by killerinstinct
    He's the main guy of team roid house.His best friend(Mark Kerr) takes drugs(watch the Smashing Machine)
    yea and mark kerr trained with bas and ricco in that too so that means that theyre on gear too. wow. what a wonder its done for ricco huh? you cant really be guilty by association. God i hope you dont turn out to be a cop
  • 08-05-2006, 09:50 AM
    Alvin
    Absolutely. I gotta say it makes me laugh that the UFC promotes Xyience & yet everyone is so anti performance enhancing drugs.

    I've no idea what is in Xyience, but it is a performance enhancer & to me there is a very fine line between legal & illegal substances.

    For example during the Salt Lake winter olympic games of 2002 there was a Scottish downhill skier who won a gold medal & became a national hero cos it was Scotlands first ever skiing gold medal at any olympics.

    A few days later he was stripped of his medal cos they found illegal substances in his urine sample. It turns out that he had a cold & in the UK was given some Vicks as it had passed all the necessary Olympic drug tests. He had run out & bought some more at a drugstore in Salt Lake. Turns out that the US version of Vicks was not the same as the UK & contained an illegal substance.

    So there you have it an Olympic champion is thrown out in disgrace & had his dream shattered over.......a stick of Vicks inhaler.

    Maybe I'm too sceptical, but Xyience have a natural (?) growth factor suppliment, a Xtreme testosterone suppliment, a xtreme sex (?!?!) suppliment etc, just seems a bit dodgey to me.
  • 08-05-2006, 04:50 AM
    Mastiff_owner
    For some reason i recall hearing that Baroni tested positive right before he left the ufc. I am not sure though. I do agree that as long as there is no proof we can't really accuse any of them. But at the same time i am 100% against any illegal performance enhancers.
  • 08-04-2006, 09:23 PM
    Alvin
    Quote Originally Posted by killerinstinct
    He's the main guy of team roid house.His best friend(Mark Kerr) takes drugs(watch the Smashing Machine)
    I know he runs team Hammerhouse, but as far as I know there has NEVER been any positive drug abuse committed by any of them.

    Please give me actual proof (and not that crap you gave as proof when trying to prove Lee Murray KO'd Tito!) that Mark Coleman, Kevin Randleman or Phil Baroni have tested positive for any banned substance before or after a mma fight.

    As far as I am aware there are none, cos it doesn't exist outside of keyboard warriors imaginations.

    Incidentally Mark Kerr was addicted to opiate painkillers (a byproduct of heroin, opium or mophine) again I'm no doctor/physician, but opiates are not steroids.
  • 08-04-2006, 01:06 PM
    bassm
    I think the guys that more likely to use them are HWTs because the wieght gain wouldnt be a problem. On a side note i knew this wrestler in High School who took streriods but gained too much wieght and couldnt beat the kid in his wieght class on his team. So in his senior year he just quit because he couldnt cut down to the next wieght.[/QUOTE]


    I agree it is not condusive to cutting weight. Its also detrimental to cardio endurance. There are however many different types of steroids and illegal performance inhancers with many different effects on the body. Most people that dont know anything about them and think they have only one function and they all do the same thing, that is not true. I will say it again, unless you have a positive test no one knows what is going on and its a waste of breath just accusing different fighters. As far as there honor goes
    TUF5, I hate to break it to you most are trying to get a check.
  • 08-04-2006, 07:07 AM
    Masscore
    Quote Originally Posted by dagreat1
    As someone stated earlier, 95% of the fighters are using some form of illegal performance enhancer (estimate).
    I really, really, really, doubt that. I know roids and other drugs are a problem, but I dont believe that 95% of all fighters are using them or something else. The problem with roids and performance enhancer is they put on wieght. So for some fighters it wouldnt help them at all. Do you think guys like Franklin or Tanner would ever make wieght if they used Roids and gained all that extra wieght. Or Hughes who has been a monster since College. I really dont think Wandy uses them, his wieght and size dont change that much and he has always made 205 fairly easily it seems.

    I think the guys that more likely to use them are HWTs because the wieght gain wouldnt be a problem. On a side note i knew this wrestler in High School who took streriods but gained too much wieght and couldnt beat the kid in his wieght class on his team. So in his senior year he just quit because he couldnt cut down to the next wieght.
  • 08-04-2006, 06:29 AM
    LefthookStcrook
    Quote Originally Posted by dagreat1
    if the roids help the fights to be more exciting, it earns the fighters more moeny and they are happy doing it, I'm all for it.
    no way man roids already got their place in mainstream bullshit sports like wreastling, a true martial artists will tell you MMA is about pride and honor and if your pumping illegal drugs to increase your speed or strength you shouldn't even consider yourself a martial artist. As far as Coleman goes,im not and never was a huge fan of him but the ufc is in desperate need for HW's so i wouldnt mind seeing him back against a new comer as long as atleast one of them stay.
  • 08-04-2006, 03:01 AM
    dagreat1
    And even if all of the Pride fighters are juicing, the top fighters ould still be the top fighters if no one roided so it is still plain to see who the best fighters are roids or no roids as that would not change anything and personally, if the roids help the fights to be more exciting, it earns the fighters more moeny and they are happy doing it, I'm all for it.
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