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  • 09-13-2006, 11:26 PM
    CHUCKtheCHAMP
    Quote Originally Posted by Storm442
    Scroll up.
    Steelbone said he currently fights at 220. And wanted him to drop to 205.
    I said that's a lot of weight for someone who walks around at (possibly) 235-240.

    hw dont really cut whieght to fight.. they dont need to make a whieght limit
  • 09-13-2006, 07:29 PM
    LethalStriker
    Cro Cop doesn't like to cut weight, and why should he have to? He is the #2 HW in the world without having to cut 20 lbs. to make weight. And once you get past 230 or so the extra weight really doesn't help you as much as it would in the smaller weight classes. I would say most fighters at HW the peak for them is 220-240, anything more and it just slows you down unless you're 6'5" or taller.
  • 09-13-2006, 06:59 PM
    ANTi
    Quote Originally Posted by Storm442
    Wow, we've really got two camps of thought here on "normal" weight (if you're under the belt limit)

    Is there an article/interview with a fighter that's under the limit by a fair amount (Arlovsky, Cro-Cop, Kongo, Mir) that would clear this up? Most those guys fight at approx 240 which is well under the 265 limit.


    Perhaps some fighters use one method, and other fighters use a different one (cut to 240 -or- stay at 240 year round), and we're ALL right?
    I'm curious to read some facts...

    ~Storm

    There is an episode of UFC all access that features Arlovsky. In the episode Rachele leah asks him if he will need to cut weight for the fight. He replies with no, but he watches what he eats because he doesn't want to lose his six pack. So Andrei fights at the weight he walks around at.
  • 09-13-2006, 04:18 PM
    Punk Ass
    Quote Originally Posted by Storm442
    Wow, we've really got two camps of thought here on "normal" weight (if you're under the belt limit)

    Is there an article/interview with a fighter that's under the limit by a fair amount (Arlovsky, Cro-Cop, Kongo, Mir) that would clear this up? Most those guys fight at approx 240 which is well under the 265 limit.


    Perhaps some fighters use one method, and other fighters use a different one (cut to 240 -or- stay at 240 year round), and we're ALL right?
    I'm curious to read some facts...

    ~Storm
    Here's a article about why and how to cut weight. And what happens if too much weight is cut and if it's done improperly.

    http://www.grapplearts.com/How-to-Cut-Weight.html
  • 09-13-2006, 04:15 PM
    Sweetreef
    I wonder in wanderlei would fight better if it was for his belt
  • 09-13-2006, 03:58 PM
    Storm442
    Wow, we've really got two camps of thought here on "normal" weight (if you're under the belt limit)

    Is there an article/interview with a fighter that's under the limit by a fair amount (Arlovsky, Cro-Cop, Kongo, Mir) that would clear this up? Most those guys fight at approx 240 which is well under the 265 limit.


    Perhaps some fighters use one method, and other fighters use a different one (cut to 240 -or- stay at 240 year round), and we're ALL right?
    I'm curious to read some facts...

    ~Storm
  • 09-13-2006, 03:32 PM
    kalamazoo12
    killer is the only one that makes sense. You don't cut weight if you don't have to. Crocop walks around at his fighting weight (give or take 5 lbs). By the way, the HW title is a joke in the UFC. Every other title holds more interest except for the new lightweight that is coming back.
  • 09-13-2006, 03:14 PM
    Clint
    Hypergit said it best, all fighters will lose weight(fat) while training because of the sheer intensity of their training and typically a good diet. Then if the fighter is still over their weight class, they then cut water weight.

    Using this concept, Crocop probably walks around at 240 when not training and then gets to 220 through diet and intense training. Thereby, he would only have to cut 15lbs of water to make weight. Thats not a tremendous amount of water for a guy of that size.
  • 09-13-2006, 02:47 PM
    Punk Ass
    Quote Originally Posted by steelebone
    He wants to be heavyweight champ but if he can't beat the champ, and he can't, drop the weight and get himself a belt.
    Naw, just keep training, get better, and maybe he'll get another shot at the title, anything can happen in MMA and Cro Cop definately has the power to kick Fedor's head into another world (and dont be surprised if it happens, Cro Cop is going to do his homework).

    And I guarantee everybody on here will scream "NOW I THINK CHUCK CAN BEAT FEDOR" if fedor was to lose to Cro Cop. Such band wagon riders, and Nit Pickers( only if applicable).


    I think dropping weight to fight smaller fighters is pussy, especially if your already a really good HW. I think Randy was really a blown up LHW so he came down.
  • 09-13-2006, 02:04 PM
    Hypergit
    Quote Originally Posted by harlemhustla145
    Trust me Cro Cop cuts weight just to make 220.

    as soon as a fighter starts burning off more weight than his natural weight he starts burning muscle.
    No, he may cut some fat through intensifying his cardio regime in the run up to a fight, but he will not cut water.

    He could cut at least 20lbs of water if he wanted, but it could slightly effect his performance (although not through losing muscle, just through losing muscle cell water)

    Quote Originally Posted by harlemhustla145
    Also most figthers vie to be the HW champion, thats just the most prestigious title to have
    Yeah, just liike Fedor he is clearly going for the big prize. However, if Fedor owns him in the rematch it could make sense to try 205 - there would be no shame in that (far from it). I'm not sure what's going to happen here... I'll just wait and see.

    git.
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