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  • 09-19-2006, 05:52 AM
    Ubermensch
    Quote Originally Posted by binimac
    i totally agree with your post, but what makes you think that u must compete or have competed in combat sports to have a legible poinion? i understand that lilmac makes no sense in this thread, but to discredit people that dont make claims to have been a fighter or whatever, is even more rediculous. i myself have never competed, but have studied foe many years the sport off mma, and boxing and believe that my post, unlike others are not biased and very thoughtfull, so please watch how and what u say i u dont want to get called out. and by the way, what have u competed in anyway?
    Some Prelims' with the Unified Shoot Wrestling Federation in the Mid 90's. But you are right I shouldn't call out LILMAC like that or anyone who hasn't been there. It just sometimes irks me when Someone says somthing so silly as to not understand what winning the Mundials after just recieveing your BB really means, and also being the first non Brazilian to do so. That is a Legend!!! And I am glad you have studied it makes you more verse than some other people that don't see the feet hook at the right time and understand why that is important, or how to hold your legs to defend agaist someone wanting to get a good mount or side control.
  • 09-19-2006, 03:36 AM
    binimac
    good point, see u next time
  • 09-19-2006, 03:33 AM
    Mac
    Quote Originally Posted by binimac
    quick question before i go, in your opinion can a fighter still be very much active in the prime of his career, and reach the status of legend? just curious?
    and by the way im not saying my opinion is fact, just elaborating on the reason behind it.
    I think a guy can be a legend in the latter days of his career, but most guys are in their prime between the ages of 25-35. Maybee when Penn is 35 he will have done enough to obtain the status of legend. Also, I'm not saying my opinion is fact, I just think the word legend should be reserved for people who have done it all in the sport.
  • 09-19-2006, 03:25 AM
    binimac
    quick question before i go, in your opinion can a fighter still be very much active in the prime of his career, and reach the status of legend? just curious?
    and by the way im not saying my opinion is fact, just elaborating on the reason behind it.
  • 09-19-2006, 03:21 AM
    Mac
    Quote Originally Posted by binimac
    how do u become a legend?

    defeat a legend and in an already impressive career, he holds a win over matt hughes, and not matt that was rough or green, but a dominant matt.
    just because u wont call him a legend try to imagine that there r other mma fans and other opinions out there. u make a FEW points but understand that others, MANY others give credit where it is due
    I've given credit, I didn't say anything derogatory about Penn in this post, I even said he could one day become a legend, my only issue here is the use of the word. As far as how you become a legend, I believe takes time. Matt Hughes beat a legend but that doesn't automatically make him one. It's one of the things that will go towards his legend as he becomes one though.
  • 09-19-2006, 03:15 AM
    binimac
    how do u become a legend?

    defeat a legend and in an already impressive career, he holds a win over matt hughes, and not matt that was rough or green, but a dominant matt.
    just because u wont call him a legend try to imagine that there r other mma fans and other opinions out there. u make a FEW points but understand that others, MANY others give credit where it is due
  • 09-19-2006, 03:11 AM
    Mac
    Quote Originally Posted by binimac
    most people that know and watch mma would, and thats the opinion that matters in this case
    You just proved my point, only people the watch mma know Penn. Legends are known by the many not the few.
  • 09-19-2006, 03:09 AM
    binimac
    most people that know and watch mma would, and thats the opinion that matters in this case
  • 09-19-2006, 03:06 AM
    Mac
    Quote Originally Posted by Afro Samurai
    ok now im curious

    who in MMA is a legend to you? im talkin in MMA combat alone.
    At this point the only person in mma I would consider a legend is Royce Gracie. MMA is still (to me) in it's early stages. To me he made it mainstream, if it weren't for him some of these guys never would have gotten into it. There are other guys you could make arguments for that have been around for a while. Penn is in his 20's still. He hasn't been doing it long enough yet. Also if you were walking down the street most people you run into would know the name Royce Gracie.
  • 09-19-2006, 02:59 AM
    Afro
    Quote Originally Posted by LILMAC
    Absolutely not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ok now im curious

    who in MMA is a legend to you? im talkin in MMA combat alone.
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