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  • 01-10-2008, 04:35 AM
    notrightn0w
    Quote Originally Posted by BigBanda View Post
    Damn I love to barbecue!! This will turn any vegetarian into a barbecue fanatic as well lol...

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  • 01-10-2008, 03:54 AM
    Ubermensch
    Here is what Mungo is talking about in simple terms and nice flashing pictures again though the problem is infrastructure and population. But this will help those understand his point of view.

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  • 01-10-2008, 01:25 AM
    POINDEXTER
    Quote Originally Posted by lostlineman View Post
    ok vegans i cant take it any more. i raise cattle and i also have a garden. do any of you rocketscientists have a garden. i am guessing not do you have any idea of the fertilizers and pesticides put on your precious veggies, soybeans any other thing grown on earth. and please tell me you eat "organic" i love that !!!! do you know what "organic" farmers use for fertilizer you guessed it einstein "cow shit" i dont care if you eat dirt just dont tell me you are saving the world because the only way you are not contaminating the earth is if you are dead, well you would still be contaminating the earth wouldnt you!!!!!!!!!!
    Are you implying that rocket scientists can't have gardens? Whatever dude, that's ignorant.
  • 01-10-2008, 01:24 AM
    BigBanda
    Quote Originally Posted by Mungo View Post
    hahahah omg that was so funny! hahahahahahhaha lol omg! rofl waffles lolz, lmfao!
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  • 01-10-2008, 01:10 AM
    Mungo
    Quote Originally Posted by BigBanda View Post
    Damn I love to barbecue!! This will turn any vegetarian into a barbecue fanatic as well lol...

    hahahah omg that was so funny! hahahahahahhaha lol omg! rofl waffles lolz, lmfao!
  • 01-09-2008, 10:53 PM
    BigBanda
    Damn I love to barbecue!! This will turn any vegetarian into a barbecue fanatic as well lol...

  • 01-09-2008, 10:32 PM
    Mungo
    Quote Originally Posted by lostlineman View Post
    ok vegans i cant take it any more. i raise cattle and i also have a garden. do any of you rocketscientists have a garden. i am guessing not do you have any idea of the fertilizers and pesticides put on your precious veggies, soybeans any other thing grown on earth. and please tell me you eat "organic" i love that !!!! do you know what "organic" farmers use for fertilizer you guessed it einstein "cow shit" i dont care if you eat dirt just dont tell me you are saving the world because the only way you are not contaminating the earth is if you are dead, well you would still be contaminating the earth wouldnt you!!!!!!!!!!
    The meat industry's impact on the environment >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pesticides impact
  • 01-09-2008, 10:13 PM
    notrightn0w
    Quote Originally Posted by lostlineman View Post
    ok vegans i cant take it any more. i raise cattle and i also have a garden. do any of you rocketscientists have a garden. i am guessing not do you have any idea of the fertilizers and pesticides put on your precious veggies, soybeans any other thing grown on earth. and please tell me you eat "organic" i love that !!!! do you know what "organic" farmers use for fertilizer you guessed it einstein "cow shit" i dont care if you eat dirt just dont tell me you are saving the world because the only way you are not contaminating the earth is if you are dead, well you would still be contaminating the earth wouldnt you!!!!!!!!!!
    I never said I was saving the world. I said I changed my diet because I had health issues. I also said the world is fucked, I am just trying to avoid making it worse. If you treat your cattle right and don't abuse, overfeed, or give them steroids than more power to you.
  • 01-09-2008, 03:18 AM
    Mungo
    Quote Originally Posted by Ubermensch View Post
    First Mungo that was a joke you know. And second The cattle industry could be a factor in helping the environment if they were made to contain the methane for energy. However they do not nor are they forced too. Like I said it is a populous and infrastructure thing that is the problem more than anything. You drive your car, use a fridge, get on a computer if you do we can use the same argument about being able to choose not to have that kind of environmental impact. So don't jump on meat eaters because of it because that would be just as narrow minded as them jumping on you.

    Veggies and Vegans are cool in general, I know a lot and I mean a lot of people I know are, but there are a lot of militant ones that bug the fuck out of me. To put it in perspective it is like a ton of Ted Nugents getting on a veggies ass for not Hunting for food. Its more eccological than most farm raised grains, fruits and vegetables.
    The cattle industry COULD help the environment but don't expect that to happen anytime soon. At this point in time eating meat is worse for the environment than driving a car, using a fridge and getting on a computer all at the same time. I just don't like how you can tell that to meat eaters and they don't give a shit.

    I hate to seem pushy about not eating meat but most (not all of them but most) animals are treated very inhumanely and there overpopulation is becoming a cause for concern. I just don't think it's right to ignore the environment or bein fair to animals for something like taste. I'm not saying eating meat is wrong, animals eat meat but they don't fuck things up like humans do. The problem is people are raised eating meat for so long they become pschologically addicted and maybe even physically addicted to it. I just don't see why anyone can accept eating meat contributes to killing the planet and not be willing to change that at least in SOME way. Right now I don't drive a Hybrid, recycle or am even a vegetarian but I would be willing to change all of that if I had the proper resources.

    I don't care for PETA and I realize that picture was a joke, call me a hippie but I care more about the planet more than I do my taste.
  • 01-09-2008, 01:11 AM
    Palma
    Quote Originally Posted by lostlineman View Post
    ok vegans i cant take it any more. i raise cattle and i also have a garden. do any of you rocketscientists have a garden. i am guessing not do you have any idea of the fertilizers and pesticides put on your precious veggies, soybeans any other thing grown on earth. and please tell me you eat "organic" i love that !!!! do you know what "organic" farmers use for fertilizer you guessed it einstein "cow shit" i dont care if you eat dirt just dont tell me you are saving the world because the only way you are not contaminating the earth is if you are dead, well you would still be contaminating the earth wouldnt you!!!!!!!!!!
    Who are you talking too? No one has said they are Vegan. And not all organic food is fertilized with cow shit.
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