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  • 09-30-2006, 01:29 AM
    lyger81
    i didn't realise that the coleman/fedor was non title..so basically all fights are 3 5min rds..hmm, glad this came out before i made a trip to see them live.
  • 09-29-2006, 06:54 PM
    WadoKai
    "Whining" was a poor choice of words. But I think there is a lot of naysaying and complaining based on hypotheticals.

    The point I was trying to convey is that Pride is great not only because of what tactics are permissable, but because of the fighters.

    Would it be better if they could fight in the USA under current Pride regulations? Sure, but they can't. I think these guys will still show up and put on a more exciting show than the UFC has put on in awhile.

    I also appreciate the business venture aspect Pride is undertaking here and believe me, I want Pride to succeed. If they put on a great show under the same rules the UFC abides, it only serves to make the organization look that much better.

    They've gotta take the hit on the rules to bring their show to the USA, it's a short term sacrifice for what will hopefully be Pride's longterm gain.

    I still think we should all watch the show before we go around saying the rules will make the show suck. Unless of course you like setting yourselves up for disappointment so you can be pleasantly surprised. In which case, git er done.
  • 09-29-2006, 05:32 PM
    baba
    The biggest draw for many of those who prefer Pride fights over UFC fights, is the raw brutality. Stomping a downed opponent in the head is on par with any street brawl which always draws a crowd. Unlike WadoKai, I don't perceive people voicing their opinions on this matter here as whining. By conforming to a much softer set of rules, Pride is drastically altering their product, and by direct correlation, putting off a large portion of their existing fan base.

    Only time will tell if "Pride Light", as I'll start referring to their U.S. presence, will be a success.
  • 09-29-2006, 05:22 PM
    WadoKai
    I think there's a lot of premature whining going on about the rules. I'm optimistic that the quality of fighters, despite the newly imposed rules, will still make for good Pride events in the USA.

    I never seem to hear a lot of people complaining that the UFC fighters should be allowed to kick downed opponents, or that their PPVs are suffering because they're not allowed to knee to the head while the opponent is down.

    At any rate, I'll reserve my judgement on the rules until I've seen the product.

    I still think the biggest reason Pride is preferable to UFC(for me) isn't just the rules, but the fighters.

    They're versatile, they'll adapt.
  • 09-29-2006, 04:55 PM
    dalandlou
    Quote Originally Posted by killerinstinct
    I personally prefer elbows over kicks to the head of a downed opponent.If Pride is going to have to not allow kicks to the heads of downed opponents than they should at least legalize elbows.
    Agreed 100%
  • 09-29-2006, 03:08 PM
    killerinstinct
    I personally prefer elbows over kicks to the head of a downed opponent.If Pride is going to have to not allow kicks to the heads of downed opponents than they should at least legalize elbows.
  • 09-29-2006, 02:04 PM
    startrak
    Ugh I wish the athletic commisions in the U.S. would become more flexible with the sport of MMA and evolve a bit.

    France is the other extreme, MMA is illegal in their country.
    USA is in the middle, with lots of legal bodies inhibiting fighters with certain rules and judging requirements.
    Japan is next, PRIDE allows knees, kicks/stomps on downed opponent, etc.


    I REALLY hope this changes soon, because not only our PRIDE rules essential to some fighters, they are more exciting! The reason people watch PRIDE is because yes, it is the most competitive and largest MMA org around AND its rules are the best.


    I remember Alistair Overeem saying he really didn't like the U.S./NSAC imposed rules (at Strikeforce), and that he defintiely prefers PRIDE rules. Apparently he had trained a lot on his soccer kicks.
  • 09-29-2006, 01:31 PM
    dalandlou
    Quote Originally Posted by ronin
    Wait 2 years anyone heard of torrents I have tons of pride events I downloaded from torrent sites wait 2 years shit I wait 2 days.

    Yeah the Pride U.S. rules suck like the I.F.l. rules.
    Yeah, usually I just rock the Youtube.com for any fights that I missed, but I do love my Netflix. Plus, I'd much rather watch the fights on my tv than a computer. I know you can burn torrents to dvd and blah, but that's just too much work for a lazy ass like myself.
  • 09-28-2006, 11:51 PM
    NinjaShogunRua
    Quote Originally Posted by thisisphil03
    So, will the championship bouts be 3 rounds still, or 5 like UFC? It'll be weird to see fighters who are accustomed to gis and shoes come and fight in the U.S.

    Will the ref be a Pride ref? Or someone like BJM? Are they still issuing yellow/red cards? Kicks to the legs of a downed opponent ok? I wonder...

    But even with all the rule changes, Pride still has the best shot of any organization to steal UFC's spotlight.
    The fight takes place in Las Vegas, Nevada, therefore they use Nevada State Athletic Commission rules and Referees. That means no yellow/red cards.

    There isn't gonna be any title defenses so there isn't really any worry about a 3 or 5 round fight. If there was a title defense, then yes they would be required to have a 5 round fight.
  • 09-28-2006, 11:35 PM
    thisisphil03
    So, will the championship bouts be 3 rounds still, or 5 like UFC? It'll be weird to see fighters who are accustomed to gis and shoes come and fight in the U.S.

    Will the ref be a Pride ref? Or someone like BJM? Are they still issuing yellow/red cards? Kicks to the legs of a downed opponent ok? I wonder...

    But even with all the rule changes, Pride still has the best shot of any organization to steal UFC's spotlight.
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